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IRC log for #sourcefu, 2013-06-03

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01:56 aditsu pdurbin: Monty replied at http://readwrite.com/2013/05/31/mysql-co-founder-wants-you-to-pay-up-for-open-source
02:18 pdurbin as Michael?
02:21 aditsu yeah that's his real name
02:22 pdurbin interesting comment
02:22 pdurbin I dunno, do we need his Business Source license?
02:23 pdurbin if someone interviews him on a podcast, please let me know
02:23 aditsu if someone interviews him on a podcast, the only place I could possibly hear about that is this channel
02:24 pdurbin heh
02:25 aditsu interesting, he has 3 children, and a database project named after each one
02:26 pdurbin huh. yeah, I think I heard that once
02:26 pdurbin speaking of podcasts, I'm enjoying this one right now: Episode 0.8.6 - Discourse, Ruby and more with Jeff Atwood (aka Coding Horror) - The Changelog - http://thechangelog.com/086/
02:26 pdurbin he's talking about how software needs to evolve
02:27 pdurbin complaining that reddit hasn't changed since 2006
02:27 pdurbin westmaas: ^^
02:29 westmaas but I put in 6 commits!
02:29 westmaas but yeah it hasn't changed much
02:33 * aditsu managed to hunt down and fix some performance issues in depeche (including some memory profiling)
02:34 aditsu seems that jhat is still the best
02:36 pdurbin aditsu: I forget, do you do any Java EE at all?
02:37 aditsu pdurbin: only the servlet part of EE
02:38 pdurbin hmm, ok. I just added this page: http://wiki.greptilian.com/java/ee/6
02:38 pdurbin I'm going through a webinar about Java EE 6
02:38 pdurbin and commiting to a git repo each change as he explains it
02:38 pdurbin and he just moved code from a servlet into an EJB
02:39 pdurbin (Enterprise Java Bean for the uninitiated)
02:39 pdurbin anyway, it's a good tutorial for me. very relevant to my day job: https://blogs.oracle.com/arungupta/entry/screencast_37_java_ee_6
02:40 pdurbin aditsu: but you do use JPA some?
02:41 aditsu pdurbin: nope, I tried it once, it is beautiful in theory but.. Wipeout in practice :p
02:41 pdurbin hmm, ok
02:42 pdurbin I kinda need to get my head around JPA
02:42 aditsu good luck :)
02:42 pdurbin heh
02:44 pdurbin aditsu: I was thinking about how I would keep a database with the code. just for toy apps or whatever. maybe I could just use sqlite for this
02:48 aditsu pdurbin: you could also use h2 (especially for java code)
02:48 pdurbin hmm. ok
02:49 pdurbin it seems like sqlite is not very popular in the java world. I see it plenty with ruby or python
02:50 aditsu the sqlite jdbc driver is not the greatest.. but it's usable
02:51 aditsu I think there's also more than one.. I remember spending a good amount of time figuring out which one to use
02:51 pdurbin right. well, I didn't know that exactly but there aren't a lot of blog posts on it
02:51 westmaas yeah h2 is way more popular in the java world (or was back when I wrote java!)
02:52 pdurbin westmaas: back when you wrote code
02:52 westmaas haha
02:52 westmaas fine :(
02:52 pdurbin ironcame1: ^^
02:52 westmaas don't encourage him
02:52 westmaas he's at a perl conference this week
02:52 westmaas in austin tx
02:52 westmaas which is near where I'm moving this week
02:53 pdurbin ah. yapc:na
02:53 westmaas yea
02:53 pdurbin westmaas: whoa! say hi to my sister for me. she just moved there
02:53 westmaas but he's rudely coming back before I get there
02:53 westmaas i'm going to san antonio
02:53 pdurbin ah. to hang with rackerhacker
02:54 westmaas yep
02:54 westmaas what brought her to austin?
02:54 pdurbin good weather
02:54 westmaas "good"
02:54 pdurbin :)
03:02 pdurbin interesting how anti-chat Jeff Atwood is... how chat logs don't have any useful artifacts in them. that he very rarely ever ends up on chat logs after a google search
03:02 pdurbin maybe I should fold up shop
03:05 pdurbin "chat is optimized for the writer"
03:07 pdurbin "the more discussion you have the less you learn"
03:07 westmaas hm
03:07 pdurbin "reddit at least has some incidental learning"
03:07 westmaas does he mean only over text?
03:07 pdurbin westmaas: primarily, yes
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03:11 ben_e that strikes me as bullshit though
03:11 pdurbin :)
03:11 ben_e the "chat" part can happen on mailing lists, web forums, blog comments, etc
03:11 ben_e and it's how you figure out who in the community you can trust
03:12 pdurbin it's a good listen. this podcast ^^
03:12 ben_e the standalone blog post on a complex topic with zero comments is... suspect
03:13 ben_e i'll give it a whirl tomorrow
03:13 pdurbin sweet
03:13 ben_e bed for me now
03:13 pdurbin one of us
03:14 pdurbin me too. done folding clothes
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15:35 codex pdurbin: massive network speed increase coming your way (on VM)
16:33 pdurbin \o/
16:37 pdurbin maybe we'll see a change at http://munin.greptilian.com
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