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15:28 pdurbin Are You a Human - The Ultimate Captcha Alternative - http://areyouahuman.com/demo/
15:40 spilth joined #sourcefu
15:52 pdurbin would be great if it were open source
15:59 pdurbin heh. seen in ##java: "java is to javascript as ham is to hamster"
16:00 spilth Mmm, I love my mom's Christmas Hamster.
16:03 pdurbin honey glazed hamster
16:04 spilth java is to javascript as ruby is to Ruby Tuesday?
16:04 spilth I'll just stop now
16:12 pdurbin my svn to git conversion process is fully documented now: https://github.com/dvn/dvn-sourceforge2github
16:14 spilth nice
16:15 spilth I have one on using git to access an svn repository - http://spilth.org/notes/git-svn/
16:16 spilth I do this at work where we have projects in Subversion but I want to use Git locally
16:16 pdurbin thankfully, my new group wants to move to git
16:18 spilth We just set up git internally, so people have the option to move to that now. But plenty of legacy stuff in subversion. I know that my boss found/created a transition tool as well.
16:20 pdurbin i'm hoping the conversion i've done is good enough. i'm not capturing any branching but it seems like most recent development has been on trunk
16:21 pdurbin i'm looking forward to feedback from others in my group, as i mentioned in my latest update: https://redmine.hmdc.harvard.edu/issues/1188#note-10
16:22 spilth oops, we were going from subversion at one place to subversion at another. not subversion to git. Sorry
16:23 pdurbin since then i made https://github.com/dvn/dvn-svn-import-test4 because we're in a dev freeze following a release
16:23 pdurbin and i wanted to capture the latest commits
16:25 spilth I wonder if you could also just use git-svn and then push the git repo somewhere
16:26 pdurbin i'm sure you could
16:27 spilth http://john.albin.net/git/convert-subversion-to-git
16:29 pdurbin hmm, "A *complete* guide to git-svn conversions" ... i don't think i've seen this. thanks
16:31 pdurbin hmm, and he wrote some helper scripts: https://github.com/JohnAlbin/git-svn-migrate via http://john.albin.net/git/git-svn-migrate
16:56 pdurbin it seems much more thorough. timing it
17:11 pdurbin http://sourcefu.com is affected by this as it's hosted by GitHub Pages: GitHub Pages updated to Jekyll 0.12.0 ยท GitHub Blog - https://github.com/blog/1366-github-pages-updated-to-jekyll-0-12-0
17:36 pdurbin that's... odd.. that git-svn-migrate.sh ran for over 45 minutes and said "conversion complete" but when i do i `git log` i only see a single commit... "Convert svn:ignore properties to .gitignore." by Author: git-svn-migrate <nobody@example.org>
19:18 pdurbin here's the last bit of output: http://danceb.in/YMzRMNhV4hGLWDnvl9DNYg
19:18 pdurbin anyway, i'll stick to https://github.com/nirvdrum/svn2git which seems to work fine
20:08 pdurbin http://search.maven.org was just pointed out to me. seems nice
20:09 semiosis there's also http://www.jarvana.com/jarvana/
20:18 pdurbin semiosis: thanks
20:19 semiosis yw
20:26 pdurbin interesting: "Hmm, that's a shame for your project. Not wanting to go for Maven for a Java package is like distributing a Linux program in a tar.gz. People just won't use it." -- http://code.google.com/p/yamlbeans/issues/detail?id=1#c19
20:31 semiosis pdurbin: that's the voice of a whiner... i use java projects that aren't in maven central
20:31 semiosis and it's easy
20:32 semiosis use sonatype nexus to host your own maven repo, you set your development environment to go to nexus, which acts as a caching proxy to maven central & any other remote repos, and you can store your own artifacts in it
20:32 pdurbin sounds fancy
20:32 pdurbin :)
20:33 semiosis only missing thing is a POM in that yaml library, which it looks like the author will accept from the community... http://code.google.com/p/yamlbeans/issues/detail?id=1#c18
20:34 semiosis then everybody's happy
20:36 pdurbin gotcha
21:27 spilth "That I can't figure out how to do this in more than a few minutes speaks volumes about Maven, IMO."
21:29 semiosis maven tends to move the burden of things toward initial setup, but once you get over that initial hurdle the project runs pretty smooth
21:29 pdurbin sounds like perl
21:34 spilth almost makes me want to describe and compare building and publishing projects across several languages (ruby, java, perl, python, php)
21:36 pdurbin spilth: i enjoyed http://joeyh.name/languages/
21:36 pdurbin huh. this is new! i knew he was getting into haskell. will have to read this later: http://joeyh.name/blog/entry/no_longer_a_perl_programmer/
21:37 spilth I meant something serious and informative :-)
21:38 pdurbin joeyh is awesome. wrote ikiwiki and https://github.com/joeyh/git-annex
21:38 pdurbin "I hear of many people who enjoy learning lots of programming languages, one after the other. A new one every month, or year. I suspect this is a fairly shallow learning. I like to dive deep."
21:38 spilth Ah, I funded git-annex but have yet to use it.
21:39 pdurbin ironcamel: "It took me probably 6 years to fully explore every depth of perl. And I never saw a reason to do the same with python or ruby or their ilk; they're too similar to perl for it to seem worth the bother."
21:40 pdurbin http://twitter.com/dysinger should read this
21:42 ironcamel pdurbin: nice
21:42 ironcamel pdurbin: check this out. will wolf is my coworker. he built danceb.in
21:42 ironcamel http://advent.perldancer.org/2012/18
22:26 spilth Does anybody care about slashdot anymore? http://ask.slashdot.org/story/13/01/03/1859210/ask-slashdot-how-can-i-explain-to-a-coworker-that-he-writes-bad-code
22:28 spilth I find it comes down to the person's attitude. If they don't wanna change, they ain't gonna change.

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