IRC log for #sourcefu, 2012-12-07

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Time	S	Nick	Message
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15:49		spilth	I got timestamps and prettier output working last nigh - http://devlog.spilth.org/2012/12/07/devlog/
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16:06		pdurbin	looking more like sourcefu all the time :)
16:12		spilth	@lucky imitation
16:12		crimsonfubot	spilth: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imitation
16:17		spilth	Even the row-highlighting is a rip-off! http://devlog.spilth.org/2012/12/07/devlog/#m10
16:20		pdurbin	heh. awesome
16:21		spilth	Now to see if I actually use it throughout the day
16:26		pdurbin	:)
16:39		spilth	Do you find debugging Jekyll converters to be a bit of a mystery?
16:40		pdurbin	converters?
16:43		spilth	I guess you didn't use a converter, just a custom generator?
16:48		spilth	Sorry, this made me think you were using a Jekyll plugin - http://irclog.greptilian.com/sourcefu/2012-12-06#i_641
17:01		spilth	I used Sourcefu's Search functionality to find that. I like how it works, showing you the entry and then letting you click through to that day's conversation.
19:02		pdurbin	spilth: here's where i'm using that plugin: https://git.huit.harvard.edu/pdurbin/pdurbiniq/blobs/master/_plugins/implicit-layout.rb (among other places)
19:02		pdurbin	at the time, in #jekyll, i was told this is "monkey patching"
19:03		spilth	cool
19:05		spilth	Yes, your "plugin" is actually replacing a method in the Jekyll code - https://github.com/mojombo/jekyll/blob/master/lib/jekyll/convertible.rb
19:06		pdurbin	right. that's my understanding of what monkey patching is. ruby people seem to be forever talking about it
19:06		spilth	You're re-opening the Jekyll::Convertible module and replacing the read_yaml method
19:07		pdurbin	yeah
19:07		spilth	I don't believe it's consider a good thing to do. At least not too much. But it gets the jobs done.
19:08		pdurbin	if you have a better way please add an answer to http://stackoverflow.com/questions/8490528/how-can-i-make-jekyll-use-a-layout-without-specifying-it
19:09		spilth	I think it comes down to Jekyll making itself more extensible regarding layouts.
19:09		spilth	http://devblog.avdi.org/2008/02/23/why-monkeypatching-is-destroying-ruby/
19:11		spilth	This was an eye-opening book about Ruby - http://pragprog.com/book/ppmetr/metaprogramming-ruby
19:17		spilth	You could also fork Jekyll, add your code directly to Jekyll::Convertible and submit a pull request :-)
19:19		spilth	Perhaps I will take a look at doing that at home.
19:27		pdurbin	that sounds like work. :) i prefer ikiwiki to jekyll these days anyway. but it's good to know jekyll if you want to take advantage of free hosting with GitHub Pages
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20:36		spilth	Ooh, a wiki that uses Markdown...
20:38		pdurbin	yup. http://wiki.greptilian.com/ikiwiki
20:52		spilth	For Jekyll, I'd probably propose a template_defaults: entry in the config file so you can set a bunch of things
22:20		spilth	I added some notes on how my devlog works: http://devlog.spilth.org/about/ with a nod to you and Dave

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