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Topic for #rest is now #rest REpresentational State Transfer | logs: http://irclog.greptilian.com/rest/today | http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/rest-discuss | http://code.google.com/p/implementing-rest/ | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Representational_State_Transfer |
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LumberJill |
Hello, is it acceptable to return relative URIs to the client in HATEAOS? |
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trygvis |
LumberJill: that would depend on the media type you use |
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trygvis |
html has explicit support for it |
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LumberJill |
trygvis: I am using JSON |
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trygvis |
json is not a hypermedia |
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LumberJill |
it's a media type no? |
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LumberJill |
sorry I m confused |
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trygvis |
sorry, I really meant hypermedia |
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_ollie |
I'd prefer absolute URIs as they make client lives much easier. Just take the URI and resolve. No need to remember where the last request went, concatenate URIs etc. |
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trygvis |
yeah, I don't see many systems using relative URLs |
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LumberJill |
All right thanks guys |
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pdurbin |
I'd favor abosolute URLs too. |
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LumberJill |
I was just having a problem getting the context of my app because I am injecting the Hypermedia links in a different domain but I figured it out so I am going with the absolute URIs |
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leclerc |
trygvis: it's kind of annoying because relative URLs have doubled the code of my URL class. |
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leclerc |
trygvis: things would be soooo much simpler... |
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KevBurnsJr |
What up, my glip glops? |
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KevBurnsJr |
So I started working at a company that's actually taken REST pretty far |
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largest scale REST deployment I've worked with |
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We have web and mobile based api clients as well as a number of set top boxes with long release lead times deployed in the wild |
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our API looks something like this https://gist.github.com/KevBurnsJr/0bfa6690a66815c1ec64a0375e5429f5 |
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KevBurnsJr |
custom hypermedia format with 4 json root elements (__class__, __href__, __links__, __actions__) |
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KevBurnsJr |
and the response content-type is ... application/json |
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KevBurnsJr |
so naturally I told my colleagues, "technically this is not REST since it doesn't use hypermedia." |
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KevBurnsJr |
but I have yet to explain to them why this aspect of the hypermedia constraint is significant |
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KevBurnsJr |
I'm hoping to do this in a blog post some time in the next week or so |
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KevBurnsJr |
If anyone would like to read the working draft I'd much appreciate feedback |
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KevBurnsJr |
https://gist.github.com/KevBurnsJr/2105cf1316ad16a3f740773b10c06829 |
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KevBurnsJr |
We also have some teams using the API that are complaining that the initial entrypoint fetches and extra hops required by hypermedia are slowing down their UIs |
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KevBurnsJr |
I'm hoping I can devise a strategy for using embedded resources like HAL does to create better composite endpoints for clients where latency is important |
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KevBurnsJr |
Maybe with some arm twisting I can even get us to transition completely to HAL |
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KevBurnsJr |
If all goes according to plan, I should have plenty to talk about at next year's REST FEST :) |
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pdurbin |
KevBurnsJr: looks like you have some relative URLs (and absoute). LumberJill was just asking about this. |
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KevBurnsJr |
pdurbin hi |
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KevBurnsJr |
I'm off to work but I'll be back online in a bit |
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