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16:15 Tomatosoup1 Roy Fielding's dissertation was written in context of HTTP 1.1 - what about HTTP/2 ? are there any changes in architectural style ?
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22:13 mamund Tomatosoup: you still there? i don't see anything changing in his style (15 yrs old now).
22:15 Tomatosoup mamund: yep, im still here
22:15 mamund esp. since his style spans other protocols like CoAP.
22:15 mamund Fielding also has talked about another protocol design called WAKA that he sez matches his style better.
22:15 mamund someday we might see that<g>
22:16 mamund HTTP2 is really, IMO, an optimization. binary is the default, compression on the headers, SSL is preferred.
22:17 mamund no new methods, not changes to the way conneg works, authneg, encoding, etc.
22:17 mamund that's my POV anyway.
22:18 Tomatosoup that is basically what i thought, the underlying architecture of protocol is pretty much the same, lots of optimization, as you said
22:19 mamund after close to 25 years of HTTP, i think there is not much likelihood of any breakout changes to the protocol.
22:19 mamund instead, we'll "fork it" and create new ones (like CoAP, really).
22:21 Tomatosoup CoAP - it is subsitute for HTTP ?
22:24 mamund not a substitute, but i think of it as a follow-on or sequel<g>
22:25 mamund uses UDP, binary msgs, and the msgs are quite short (4k max, i think). designed for low power, small deivce, IOT-stype stuff.
22:25 mamund anyway, has almost all the hallmarks of FIelding'
22:25 mamund Fielding's REST style but over UDP.
22:26 mamund https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7252
22:30 Tomatosoup that is interesting
22:31 Tomatosoup what about usage, since it is UDP ? Restful conferences ?
22:32 mamund ??
22:32 Tomatosoup that was just silly statement :P but i just wonder when it is usefull since it is via UDP
22:32 mamund ahhh
22:33 mamund well, broadcasting to lots of low-power devices is a great use-case for UDP.
22:33 Tomatosoup well, im aware of UDP protocol, but im talking about any changes beacuse od CoAP
22:33 Tomatosoup it is worth changing ?
22:34 mamund well, CoAP is not a replacement for HTTP, it's a fork for a diff set of use-cases.
22:35 mamund if you find yourself doing lots of IoT, i think CoAP can make sense.
22:35 Tomatosoup you know what, i guess my questions are just silly
22:35 Tomatosoup i will spend some time reading about CoAP
22:36 Tomatosoup and then maybe ask for something :)
22:36 mamund LOL!
22:36 mamund often doing beats asking, eh?
22:36 mamund http://www.herjulf.se/download/coap-2013-fall.pdf
22:36 mamund not sure how accurate this is anymore (from 2013) but one of my "go to" decks when ppl ask
22:37 Tomatosoup what you mean by "beats asking" ?:P
22:40 Tomatosoup mamund: i still dont quite get what does 'betas asking' mean :P
22:40 Tomatosoup *beats
22:41 Tomatosoup nvm, just didnt know this phrasal verb (or idiom, whatever)
22:45 Tomatosoup thanks anyway
22:46 Tomatosoup btw mamund, would you recommand me must-read position about REST ?
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