IRC log for #rest, 2016-01-04

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00:44	kryptynasium_	Is REST the best way to expose your software to automation?
00:49	pdurbin	kryptynasium_: yes
00:49	kryptynasium_	Best in terms of making it easier to configure as a business process
00:49	kryptynasium_	Say I have a Microsoft Word type of Software - I would like to automate parts of the software use cases - would REST be a better interface?
00:49	kryptynasium_	Excel provides scripting (in VB Basic). This question is asked from an architectural viewpoint.
00:49	kryptynasium_	Suppose someone wants to automate a business letter - and it is based on some triggering process which carries the address and other letter details. Makes sense ojacobson?
00:50	kryptynasium_	What are your thoughts pdurbin
00:52	pdurbin	kryptynasium_: you could use command line switches for something like Word. Maybe OpenOffice supports this... command line arguments.
00:54	kryptynasium_	Well that's not what I am writing - just giving an example - didn't want to come up with a complex example
00:54	kryptynasium_	Essentially my question is around what is the best interface around a piece of software where you would to automate business aspects.
00:54	kryptynasium_	*like to automate
01:06	kryptynasium_	Trying to understand what are good ways to deal with "Software Automation"
01:07	kryptynasium_	Ok so may be let me shed some light to the problem at hand. I am writing a software that does complex database configuration application.
01:07	kryptynasium_	I would like to make it easier for users to not get depressed with the nitty-gritty configs.
01:07	kryptynasium_	I can push default values - which they don't need to worry about through BPMN processes and just tweak the few basic - most important entries.
01:07	kryptynasium_	I was thinking to facilitate such a process the best way would be to have a rest interface on top of my software.
01:07	kryptynasium_	And the business processes would be created using Activiti/BPMN tools
01:07	kryptynasium_	Was interested to see what thoughts others had on this architectural model/design
01:17	pdurbin	kryptynasium_: you mean like configuring mysql or postgres in some complex way?
01:18	kryptynasium_	pdurbin: sort of
01:19	kryptynasium_	But more involved with multiple sub-configurations
01:20	pdurbin	like clustering? for high availability?
01:20	kryptynasium_	yes
01:23	pdurbin	kryptynasium_: maybe you could use puppet or chef or ansible for that
01:24	kryptynasium_	I see
01:30	pdurbin	might be a solved problem
01:53	kryptynasium_	Yeah agreed!
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02:30	pdurbin	cool
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16:53	kryptynasium	Quick question - I know this cannot be done with Activiti. But just want to make sure - can you run bash scripts with Activiti's service task?
16:56	pdurbin	searchbot: lucky Activiti
16:56	searchbot	pdurbin: http://activiti.org/
16:57	* pdurbin	looks at BPMN Specification - Business Process Model and Notation - http://www.bpmn.org
16:57	pdurbin	kryptynasium: is this thing any good? I'm not even sure what it is.
16:58	pdurbin	"Activiti is a light-weight workflow and Business Process Management (BPM) Platform targeted at business people, developers and system admins. Its core is a super-fast and rock-solid BPMN 2 process engine for Java."
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17:05	kryptynasium	Activiti is the new thing happening in automating business processes
17:06	kryptynasium	Activiti is simply a compliant BPMN 2.0 engine
17:06	kryptynasium	BPMN 2.0 is a standard languge - drag and drop diagrams - bthe process produces an xml file
17:07	kryptynasium	The goal is to allow non tech people be able to communicate with tech and automate their business processes.
17:07	kryptynasium	Go check it out
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18:10	pdurbin	huh. ok
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23:39	Just-a-noob	In practice (assuming HTTP based implementation), is it a major performance hit to implement a service facade just to get an interface abstraction?
23:46	pdurbin	probably not. I don't know. Measure it. :)
23:49	whartung	define "major"
23:49	whartung	every layer has a cost
23:54	pdurbin	yeah
23:56	whartung	hny pdurbin

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