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IRC log for #rest, 2015-04-18

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10:00 sll19 cookie-based server-side sessions being non-rest, how do i maintain a user session for a REST-style web serivce? What are options to Http authentication + SSL? Thx!
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10:53 pdurbin auth comes up so much
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17:03 trygvis pdurbin: yeah
17:04 trygvis someone should write up a blog post on the different styles used :)
17:04 pdurbin should this channel have a wiki or something?
17:11 trygvis there's always the one in the topic
17:11 trygvis but that one is going to die soon
17:12 trygvis the rest mailing list also seems to have died out a bit
17:14 pdurbin huh, I've never even looked at the wiki at https://code.google.com/p/implementing-rest/ before
17:15 pdurbin of course, soon enough that wiki will be gone... "Project Hosting on Google Code will close on January 25th, 2016" https://code.google.com
17:16 trygvis exactly
17:17 pdurbin I don't know if anyone here helped write anything there. The last update was almost two years ago.
17:17 trygvis I think something wikipedia-like could be useful
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17:18 pdurbin or just a website. I don't know
17:19 trygvis yeah, but I think lowering the bar for contribution is always useful
17:20 trygvis I could host and maintain an instance of mediawiki or a site if people would commit to contributing :)
17:21 pdurbin I'm not a *huge* fan of mediawiki but sure, something.
17:23 pdurbin I'm definitely commit.
17:23 pdurbin I'd
17:27 trygvis are there any other good open source wikis?
17:27 trygvis where good is "better than mediawiki"
17:28 pdurbin I use http://ikiwiki.info
17:29 trygvis wow, that looks even worse than mediawiki!
17:29 trygvis is the editor and stuff any better?
17:30 trygvis packages in debian is always a plus
17:32 trygvis login with google++ is nice
17:38 pdurbin I like it for a few reasons:
17:38 pdurbin - backed by git
17:38 pdurbin - can write in markdown
17:38 pdurbin - can organize contents into folders (and subfolders)
17:39 pdurbin - can be made to look decent if you care to: http://www.dragonflybsd.org
17:40 trygvis yeah, it's not bad at all
17:41 pdurbin ikiwiki has a web interface for editing but I don't use it
17:46 trygvis hm, it's kinda useless if people can't edit it through the web interface, isn't it?
17:50 pdurbin ikiwiki is backed by git. who makes git commits using GitHub's web interface? :)
17:51 trygvis dunno, is that easy enough for people to actually use it?
17:52 pdurbin maybe a high bar is better ;)
17:52 trygvis perhaps, some people like that others look at it before deploying
17:52 trygvis dunno
17:53 pdurbin maybe an installation of http://discourse.org would be better
17:54 pdurbin trygvis: are you set up to host anything other than PHP?
17:55 trygvis sure
17:55 trygvis ikiwiki is perl :)
17:55 pdurbin yeah. and discourse is ruby
17:56 trygvis I've never used discourse
17:56 trygvis the nice thing with mediawiki and ikiwiki is that they're in debian so they will be kept up to date
17:58 pdurbin oh, sure. and installing discourse is pretty hard, last I heard
17:58 trygvis I can imagine; all I find are installation instructions with docker :)
17:59 pdurbin the ikiwiki web interface works fine. I just don't bother with it since it's just me at http://wiki.greptilian.com (and I haven't bothered to make it look pretty)
18:00 trygvis I'm trying to figure out ikiwiki now
18:00 trygvis I did a major look around to look for a wiki/blog combination a while back, I wonder why I left out ikiwiki
18:00 pdurbin trygvis: here's my ikiwiki setup script if it's of interest: https://github.com/pdurbin/greptilian-vagrant/blob/master/modules/server1/files/usr/local/greptilian/bin/wiki-setup
18:10 trygvis thanks
18:10 trygvis you're in debian: /usr/share/doc/ikiwiki/html/users/pdurbin.html :)
18:20 pdurbin !
18:20 pdurbin weird. ubuntu too: http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/all/ikiwiki/filelist
18:22 pdurbin I assume the content of that file is this: http://ikiwiki.info/users/pdurbin/
18:23 trygvis yep
18:30 pdurbin trygvis: if you get ikiwiki set up, it would be awesome if we could all update via git. for me the web interface is optional :)
18:33 trygvis https://github.com/trygvis/rest-wiki
18:34 trygvis go crazy! :)
19:07 trygvis https://trygvis.io/rest-wiki/
19:08 trygvis locally chrome is showing me an ssl warning, but I can't figure out if it just a problem for me or wtf is going on
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21:49 pdurbin trygvis: that was fast! sorry, ran out to a birthday party (trampoline place). so ssl warnings here
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23:21 dcrk Hi
23:21 dcrk Do you think excess parameters should result in 403?
23:31 pdurbin you could just ignore extra query parameters your app doesn't pay attention to
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23:38 dcrk pdurbin: that is currently what I do, but what about cases where the parameter is meaningful but it's use is forbidden?
23:38 dcrk say I'm a client of Githubs API and I try to get all the repos that belongs to a@b.com but github forbids email filtering
23:42 dcrk oh, got some help :) seems like 400 is the one
23:45 pdurbin well, there's 401 and 403 also
23:46 pdurbin but yeah, sounds like 400 might be better
23:51 dcrk yep, will use that one. thank you!

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