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IRC log for #rest, 2014-06-23

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10:17 solars hi there, two years ago I had a tool that generated a working client description in html (params description etc) from a REST service description in json. I cannot find it anymore.. is there something similar meanwhile that can be used in the same way?
10:18 solars i.e. that let's me define the service and uses it to generate forms and documentation for the params
10:22 rincewind3 solars: swagger might be an alternative? https://helloreverb.com/developers/swagger
10:24 solars hm it seems swagger uses a json description, isn't there a standard json schema/hyperschema or so for this?
10:25 solars ah it uses it
10:26 solars thanks a lot
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14:38 ferz Hi
14:39 ferz I've a tree, I need to know if when I add a new leaf I need  to declare full path to its parent or if I can use the parentid only.
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15:23 blongden ferz: Is the leaf a part of the parent?
15:24 blongden Or is it a standalone resource?
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16:33 qw3rtman Hey guys, quick question. Would a request like POST /resource/create be a valid representation of creating that resource?
16:34 whartung sure
16:34 whartung that is
16:35 whartung if you send a valid representation via a request like that, it's fair to have that create an actual resource on the reciever.
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16:43 qw3rtman whartung:  Sweet, thanks for clarifying!
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18:38 spaceone what would be an example of implicit as cacheable labelled data?
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18:39 whartung I don't know what that means spaceone
18:40 spaceone whartung: "Cache constraints require that the data within a response to a request be implicitly or explicitly labeled as cacheable or non-cacheable."
18:41 whartung where do you see that? I can't think of something as "implcitly cacheable"
18:42 spaceone in the Software Architecture Dissertation
18:42 spaceone https://www.ics.uci.edu/~fielding/pubs/dissertation/rest_arch_style.htm
18:42 spaceone 5.1.4 Cache
18:44 whartung to me
18:44 whartung implicit caching
18:44 spaceone would "implicitely cacheable" that if e.g. some standanrd like HTTP defines that a representation is cacheable if no further headers say the opossite?
18:44 whartung would be documented externally
18:44 whartung yea, something "somewhere else" (i.e. not the request) says this is cacheable, so I can cache it.
18:45 spaceone yep, ok
18:51 spaceone in the case of HTTP - what does RFC 723X say about if no headers regarding caching are present in a response?
18:52 spaceone i am wondering if just IE is broken or if everyone tell IE is broken but they don't use HTTP caching correct
18:52 whartung I've never heard of RFC 723X
18:52 whartung afaik, caching is never correct accross browsers and proxies and caches lol
18:53 spaceone RFC 7230 - 7240 have been released this month - it's the redefintion of HTTP/1.1
18:53 whartung ah ok
18:53 whartung yea I heard some mumbling about that
18:53 spaceone cleaned up RFC2616
18:53 whartung I have not read them
18:53 spaceone i read and worked a little on the drafts - but never really the caching part
18:54 whartung cool! Thanks for the work!
18:54 spaceone ;) i do everything for a great WWW
18:54 whartung :)
18:55 spaceone but better give thanks to Roy Fielding and Julian Reschke
18:55 spaceone they were the ones which did the work
18:56 whartung yea, but they're not here :)
18:56 whartung you are
18:56 whartung so, thanks!
18:56 spaceone ^^
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19:05 spaceone i am currently searching for a picture i once found. The picture was created by Tim Berners-Lee and shows how Ressources are connected and related to each other. If anyone know this or such a picture, please tell me
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19:07 pdurbin line art? jpg?
19:08 spaceone i guess JPG/PNG,... but of course line art with some description
19:09 spaceone i don't remember exactly, i only know that i was pretty fascinated about it
19:09 spaceone it provided a good view on the WWW architecture and connected hyperlinks and so on
19:19 spaceone "unified interface between components" - does this mean that the data and the data transfer are in a standardized format?
19:20 spaceone like HTTP for transferring and HTML/XHTML/XML as part of the representation
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20:37 ferz blongden: a leaf is a standalone resource that can change parent if the user think it's right.
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