IRC log for #rest, 2014-06-16

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09:22	tmoore	chovy: why do you think that's cumbersome? That sounds like it makes a lot of sense to me.
09:22	tmoore	Although... if jobid is unique, you could really just use /api/jobs/:jobid
09:24	tmoore	That would work whether or not you're an admin... you'd just do the permission check in whatever handles that URL
09:25	tmoore	Actually, I'm assuming that you're wanting to delete the whole job, not just remove it from the list of favorites
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14:03	charlex	howdy people, quick question
14:04	charlex	let's say I have this endpoints /photos, /tags, /galleries and I can LINK a /photos/{id} to a /galleries/{id} and also can LINK a /photos/{id} to a /tags/{tag}, everything's fine till there
14:04	charlex	but I'm having issues to design an endpoint in where I can search (GET) the /photos linked to a specific /galleries/{id} and a specific /tags/{tag}
14:04	charlex	thoughts?
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20:20	MadLamb	Hey guys, do any1 know if its ok to return a structure different from the one being send in a post (create) in HAL?
21:06	whartung	you can return whatever you want MadLamb
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21:11	MadLamb	whartung, yes i can, but isnt there a recommended way?
21:11	MadLamb	whartung, this service i'm writing will not have any persistence.
21:12	MadLamb	whartung, its a shipment quote,
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22:04	whartung	MadLamb: it should have some persistence. What should happen is you POST should result in a REDIRECT to the actual /quote resource. They should be able to retirve that quote for at least as long as the quote is good for
22:06	MadLamb	whartung, from the moment the response is sent, the quote will be considered invalid.
22:06	talios	Morning
22:07	whartung	well, logically, that doesn't make much sense. of what use is an invalid quote (yes I'm being pedantic here, but computers tend to be pedantic). Operationally, from a resource perspective, persisting the quote for the duration of the TTL of the quote is useful and valuable, whether the quote is good for 10s or 6 months.
22:20	MadLamb	whartung, dont that mean unnecessary load for the server? database/cache access?
22:22	whartung	it's a static document. How much load can that be? And it's completely cacheable. You can even set the cache limite to the TTL of the quote.
22:22	whartung	do you database processing, write the result to a file, reply with a redirect to that file, and you're done.
22:22	whartung	then write a clean up process to purge old quotes
22:22	whartung	simple, low impact, RESTful
22:23	MadLamb	whartung, this service returns many carrier services, it has to update the quote with those carriers, and they don't guarantee the price for a specific time range, so how could I? Everything depends on weight
22:24	MadLamb	whartung, every single request returns a different result.
22:25	whartung	so if I get a quote from you it's not going to be honored?
22:25	MadLamb	whartung, its the only service with that behavior in the api.
22:25	MadLamb	whartung, no.
22:25	whartung	so, this is an "estimate", not a quote?
22:25	MadLamb	whartung, yes.
22:25	MadLamb	whartung, it will be honored on the moment you place the order.
22:25	whartung	how long do I have to place the order
22:25	whartung	?
22:25	MadLamb	whartung, but you can get the quote now and place the order in 3 days.
22:26	whartung	and how do you know what estimate I'm basing my order upon?
22:26	MadLamb	whartung, or even more.
22:26	whartung	so it DOES have a life span
22:26	MadLamb	whartung, actually you dont provide the quote id, but the service you want it to be delivered.
22:27	MadLamb	whartung, the price may be different at that time.
22:27	whartung	so how do I know if you're honoring your quote? Do I just tell you how much I want to pay, based on what you told me?
22:27	whartung	so, it's not a quote. it's an estimate.
22:27	whartung	a good faith estimate, but still an estimate
22:27	MadLamb	whartung, you can get the quote now, and place the order in tree years, certainly the price is different and you'll have to pay the new one.
22:27	MadLamb	whartung, yes, its an estimate
22:28	whartung	so that's my point, you will not honor the quote, it's a "good faith estimate subject to change without notice"
22:28	MadLamb	whartung, yes.
22:29	MadLamb	whartung, you're right, but that means i dont need persistence, right?
22:29	whartung	Well, for one thing, I'd change the name of it. "quote" means something.
22:29	MadLamb	whartung, ill do that.
22:29	whartung	no, you can make it a simple service.
22:32	MadLamb	whartung, thanks :)
22:33	whartung	yw
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