IRC log for #openknot, 2019-06-01

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Time	Nick	Message
00:07	prologic	https://pump.mills.io/
00:07	prologic	Running Pump.io
00:07	prologic	It s "not too bad"
00:08	prologic	some useability UI/UX quirks but otherwise does what it says on the tin
00:08	prologic	decentralized, federated twitter-like social network
00:49	pdurbin	cool, but can I follow it from mastodon?
01:05	prologic	I believe you can - yes
01:05	prologic	I should be jamespump.mills.io
01:05	prologic	try it and LMK?
01:06	prologic	I'm curious about Mastodon but have no interested in signing up or running my own (mostly becuase Ruby uggh)
01:11	prologic	hmm
01:11	prologic	The fact I have to leave my own instance to follow another person, view their profile or read their posts is weird
01:11	prologic	its very counter intuitive
01:46	prologic	pdurbin So What do you like about Mastodon?
01:46	prologic	Also... Pump (at least the UI/UX) is pretty horrible
01:46	prologic	I'm not impressed to be brutally honest
01:46	prologic	and I've been giving it a serious go over at https://pump.mills.io/ for the last few hours
01:47	prologic	My wf (Writefreely) blog however is super awesome
01:47	prologic	I'll definately keep that and write a few times a week
10:02	pdurbin	prologic: I can't follow that address. I like the idea of Mastodon and the fediverse, that it's federated. No centralized control, like the Internet itself, for the most part.
10:32	prologic	I see
10:32	prologic	You like what iI want too
10:32	prologic	I want something like Twitter
10:32	prologic	but federated and decentralised
10:32	prologic	I run my instnace
10:33	prologic	you run your instnace
10:33	prologic	we don't leave each other's instances to follow each other's activities
10:33	prologic	full e2e encryption
10:33	prologic	data is trasmitted between instances on demand based on connections and key exchanges
10:36	pdurbin	Pretty much. The difference might be that I don't currently host much except static websites. I don't want to host my own email, for example (even though email is federated), because it's too much work.
10:43	pdurbin	Also, I think you care more about end to end encryption than I do. I've been playing around with XMPP recently and these days something called OMEMO is enabled by default in a lot of places but it's interfering with my ability to read history (scrollback) from multiple clients. So I turn it off.
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17:09	pdurbin	And I'm sure 99% of people don't want to run a server. :)
17:13	pdurbin	I do like the idea of controlling your identity. I played with OpenID back when it was new. I put a little PHP script on my server or something. But I've kind of given up. Now I just always log in to stuff through Google or GitHub if I can.
17:14	pdurbin	Even if you run your own server you're still just renting your domain name.
20:02	pdurbin	prologic: some feedback I gave in 2013 about pump.io: https://github.com/pump-io/pump.io/issues/440
22:43	prologic	pdurbin yeah
22:45	prologic	The think about PUmp though is the porject has failed
22:45	prologic	its run out of stream
22:45	prologic	there are BIG issues with the codebase and system as it stands today
22:45	prologic	even if you can get it running (which I did after much pain)
22:46	prologic	You don't care about e2e enc -- that's fine
22:46	prologic	But you also believe 99% of folks would not want to host their own
22:46	prologic	okay
22:46	prologic	But both of those things which are very likely true of most people doesn't mean we can't have both :)
22:51	prologic	There are other issues too
22:51	prologic	even if you were to build a new "thing"
22:51	prologic	What would compell people to use it?
22:51	prologic	There are so many alternatives and people have their own "favourites"

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