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pdurbin |
sajjadg: life is suffering |
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sfisque |
black is white. night is day. jefferson was the anti-christ |
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aspire |
hi |
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aspire |
##javaee-offtopic is empty? |
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pdurbin |
aspire: you know, Quest put that in the /topic... I deleted it once but he put it back in |
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aspire |
pdurbin well remove it because its very misleading |
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aspire |
i joined only to find chanserv and i in there |
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Topic for ##javaee is now Java Enterprise Edition | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Java_EE | logs at http://irclog.greptilian.com/javaee/today |
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pdurbin |
aspire: there you go, since you asked so nice ;) |
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aspire |
thank you : ) |
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aspire |
so whats this channel all about? i hear a lot of nasty things about this channel in particular |
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pdurbin |
aspire: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Java_EE |
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pdurbin |
(hence the name) |
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aspire |
ah yes i fear i havent used java ee |
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sfisque |
aspire : that is because we are old curmudgeonly enterprise devs who eat babies and smack the elderly |
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* sfisque |
smirks michievously |
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* sfisque |
looks around for a spelling dictionary |
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pdurbin |
I thought some of us are *among* the elderly |
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aspire |
sounds like a pretty badass community |
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aspire |
very scary though |
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pdurbin |
we tolerate each other |
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aspire |
good : ) |
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aspire |
at what point should i learn java ee |
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pdurbin |
when you get a new job and they use java ee |
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sfisque |
amen pdurbin |
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pdurbin |
they're starting to use scala at work. for map reduce stuff. I might try to look over some shoulders |
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sfisque |
from a hobbyist standpoint, anytime is good, once you get the fundamentals (learn java.io, java.util, java.lang.reflect, and threading work |
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sfisque |
once you have those basics in place, start adding some of the EE mechanisms (servlets, jdbc, jndi, messaging, etc.) |
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sfisque |
javaeebot lucky scala java |
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javaeebot |
sfisque: http://www.scala-lang.org/ |
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sfisque |
what i thought, scala is a hosted language on the jvm |
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sfisque |
like clojure |
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sfisque |
and jython |
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pdurbin |
sfisque: have you tried clojure? |
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sfisque |
i have not |
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pdurbin |
ok. I'm kind of curious about it |
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sfisque |
javaeebot lucky clojure description |
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javaeebot |
sfisque: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3782970/how-can-i-display-the-definition-of-a-function-in-clojure-at-the-repl |
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pdurbin |
it's a lisp, basically |
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sfisque |
gotcha |
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pdurbin |
built for concurrency |
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cem__ |
integrating 3 modules :/ dont know how far this works |
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pdurbin |
javaeebot: lucky clojure |
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javaeebot |
pdurbin: http://clojure.org/ |
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aspire |
omg pdurbin ive been using scala for like a couple of weeks i like it |
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aspire |
do i have an equal chance of getting highered with knowing scala as opposed to knowing javaee |
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aspire |
or are they just really incomparable |
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tjsnell |
no |
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tjsnell |
scala is still very very minor compared to java as far as jobs go |
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pdurbin |
yeah. used by a couple big companies like twitter and netflix though |
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pdurbin |
javaeebot: lucky twitter scala school |
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javaeebot |
pdurbin: http://twitter.github.io/scala_school/ |
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tjsnell |
OK, so out of the fortune 500 a couple may do scala |
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aspire |
o.. i see |
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tjsnell |
and the number of scala jobs posted is minuscule in comparison. |
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aspire |
i kind of want to learn java ee because i see it often like on the internet and sht but im just not sure what kind of applications it would be used for |
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pdurbin |
I wonder what some big java ee apps are. ours is pretty small |
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cem__ |
which is small and which is big ?? java ee app ? |
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pdurbin |
oh I dunno |
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aspire |
what are yours |
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pdurbin |
I mean, wal-mart just moved their api stuff to node.js. that seems pretty big |
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pdurbin |
aspire: I work on an app called dataverse |
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pdurbin |
javaeebot: lucky dataverse |
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javaeebot |
pdurbin: http://thedata.org/ |
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aspire |
o.. |
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aspire |
are you the only 1 who works on it |
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aspire |
woah what is this affiliation with harvard about :O |
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sfisque |
pdurbin - healthcare. HL7 is huge |
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sfisque |
banking also. anywhere you have to stitch legacy and new together, java is generally the glue (JMS + SOAP/REST + transactional EJBs) |
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pdurbin |
javaeebot: lucky hl7 |
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javaeebot |
pdurbin: https://www.hl7.org/ |
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pdurbin |
sure. makes sense |
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cem__ |
from where did annotation came into picture |
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sfisque |
do you mean what version? annotations appeared in 1.0 (javadoc). as a programmatic tool, 1.5, iirc |
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cem__ |
how to handle exception in jsf |
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cem__ |
lol it acts in weird way |
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cem__ |
It doesnt support <error-page> <exception-type>java.lang.Throwable</exception-type> <location>/pages/error.jsf</location> </error-page> |
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cem__ |
it gives me just warning |
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cem__ |
got it we need to handle custom exception |
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sajjadg |
pdurbin: albeit it is. |
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Guest1256 |
TCP is like two women talking. UDP is like a woman taking to a man. |
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Guest26128 |
:/ |
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pdurbin |
names are hard: http://www.w3.org/International/questions/qa-personal-names#fielddesign |
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pdurbin |
http://www.w3.org/International/questions/images/firstmlast.png |
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whartung |
yea they are pdurbin |
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pdurbin |
yeah |
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pdurbin |
http://ux.stackexchange.com/questions/15770/merging-firstname-last-name-into-one-field |
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pdurbin |
http://ux.stackexchange.com/questions/37544/can-i-reformat-personal-names-obtained-from-a-single-form-field/37548#37548 |
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acuzio |
Add Kanji characters or Multiple names to it ., and wallah - now you have a problem |
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sfisque |
has anyone had the issue where an ee project in NB builds fine on unix, but the same proj on windows the build skips the metamodel build phase causing the build to fail (the Class_ files are not found) |
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whartung |
"metamodel build phase"? |
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sfisque |
the boilerplate build has a phase wehre it builds the metamodel classes for the ORM entities |
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sfisque |
for some reason my co-worker (on windows) the build is skipping that phase |
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whartung |
it does? I"m still not familiar with this phase. what classes is it generating? Is this a Hibernate thing vs a Eclipselink thing? |
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sfisque |
jpa |
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whartung |
I mean, been doing this for a while, and I'm simply not familiar with this. JPA doesn't create any artifacts on our builds. Are you "weaving" at compile time? |
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sfisque |
your build does not produce any Entity_ files? |
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sfisque |
are u using jpa2 |
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sfisque |
? |
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whartung |
no, I've never seen those. And afaik, we're using JPA2 in our GF3 projects |
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sfisque |
found it. had a broken lib ref pointing to the hibernate processor lib |
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whartung |
I just created a new NB JEE project, set it for JEE 6, created an entity, built it, and I don't see any Entity_ classes |
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sfisque |
you probably do not reference any |
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sfisque |
do you have any queries that use Entity_.attribute in building the query? |
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sfisque |
also, look in the build dir. there will probably be a "generated-sources" dir |
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sfisque |
if you dont reference them, they wont get bundled in your war/ear |
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whartung |
we pretty much never use queries, we use the expression buulder |
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sfisque |
no criteriaQueries? |
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sfisque |
CriteriaBuilder |
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sfisque |
or are you building PQL directly? |
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whartung |
Eclipselink specific ExpressionBuilder, we never converted to Criteria |
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whartung |
would have been too much of a rewrite, and portability isn't a crushing issue right now. |
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neuro_sys |
http://huvrtech.com/ |
