IRC log for #javaee, 2014-02-14

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09:23	sess	Anyone got experience with spring-test with EJB for backend?
09:23	sess	I'd like to do spring mvc tests and mock the EJBs, but spring just tries to lookup the EJBs regardless and complains about no JNDI set up
09:43	neuro_sys	http://conf.writethedocs.org/
09:43	neuro_sys	I like this website
09:44	neuro_sys	Docs or it didn't happen!
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15:42	* Naros	wishes Java had an "auto" type
15:42	sfisque	Object?
15:43	Naros	nah; problem with Object is it requires you to cast it
15:43	Naros	in C++ world, auto translates automatically to whatever type it is without the need to cast
15:44	Naros	you can access intellisense properties & methods
15:44	Naros	just find some of the JPA stuff to be quite verbose at times
15:44	acuzio	JPA meh
15:45	sfisque	lol. yeah because having 26 API's to do the same thing is preferable?
15:46	Naros	i love JPA. I ditched hibernate's api and went straight JPA
15:46	Naros	it's so damn powerful and with the metamodel generator, everything is type-safe, no strings :P
15:46	acuzio	Naros: if you _have_ to go Hibernate - JPA is preferable
15:47	Naros	I'm just saying moving from Hibernate's Criteria API and HQL to JPA's Criteria API is worth it
15:47	acuzio	A bigger question of course is - do you need something like Hibernate/JPA
15:47	acuzio	Naros: agreed
15:47	Naros	For what we do, yes. Product requires deployment onto any DB platform
15:47	acuzio	hmm
15:48	Naros	And I prefer the abstracted SQL
15:48	acuzio	horses for courses
15:49	neuro_sys	Isn't criteria based queries and annotated relational fetches are more readable than any embedded strings?
15:50	Naros	Meh; probably somewhat subjective. Some people prefer reading straight SQL cause it makes sense. Some might prefer Hibernate's Criteria API because it's simplier to use. Some might prefer the more verbose JPA2 API.
15:50	neuro_sys	alright
15:51	acuzio	horrses for courses
15:51	acuzio	horrrrsssseeeessssssssssssss ffffffoooooooorrrrrrrrrrrrr ccccccccccccccccooooooouuuuuuuurrrrrrsssssssssssseeeeeeesssssssss
15:51	Naros	:P
15:51	sfisque	strcat is for engineers stuck in the 60's with pocket protecters
15:52	acuzio	strncat
15:52	Naros	The best thing I have found is that with metamodel generators, you no longer specify properties with strings and so changes to your actual domain objects will cause your classes that have queries to not compile, thus finding during compile time rather than during testing.
15:52	sfisque	amen. the meta-model + OO criteria building == t3h w1n
15:52	acuzio	testing ha
15:53	acuzio	thats what users are for
15:53	Naros	Use cases now can be focused toward specific business cases, not developer mistake cases :P
15:53	sfisque	i don't always test my code...
15:53	sfisque	but when i do…
15:53	sfisque	i do it in production
15:53	sfisque	dox-X's
15:54	acuzio	ideally with millions riding on it - keeps life interesting
15:54	sfisque	stay employed… my friend
15:54	sfisque	>.<
15:56	acuzio	I try
15:56	acuzio	Unfortunately there is no severance or redundancy etc for what i do
15:57	* sfisque	was hoping the dos-X's commercial reference would be connected
15:57	acuzio	Dos Equis
15:57	sfisque	yes
15:57	sfisque	dos-X's
15:57	sfisque	:P
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