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pdurbin |
"not enough memory to compile" sounds like quittin' time to me :) |
| 01:25 |
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pdurbin |
ooo, you guys were talkin' rest again |
| 02:14 |
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kotten |
pdurbin what are you doing if I may ask? |
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pdurbin |
kotten: just doing a little work in netbeans. time to restart it, I guess |
| 04:02 |
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kotten |
pdurbin I think it uses a limited amount that you can increase |
| 04:02 |
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kotten |
like 256 or 512 mb or something |
| 04:02 |
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pdurbin |
hmm. I'll have to try that. thanks |
| 04:04 |
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kotten |
np. Its just something i have vauge on the back off my head. |
| 04:04 |
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pdurbin |
cool |
| 04:04 |
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pdurbin |
kotten: probably too much information, but this is what I was sitting down to work on: https://trello.com/c/jmry3BJR/28-browse-dataverses |
| 04:05 |
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kotten |
pdurbin nice.. |
| 04:05 |
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kotten |
a webpage? jsf, hibernate,primefaces and all that? |
| 04:06 |
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pdurbin |
primefaces |
| 04:06 |
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kotten |
It's a bit over my head, I am a network tech guy not really a programmer :) |
| 04:06 |
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kotten |
I just started using primefaces today |
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sfisque |
\o/ |
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kotten |
It really brought me out of the 90's :D |
| 04:07 |
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kotten |
I was a huge fan of javaFX 2+ but it seems it died out? |
| 04:08 |
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sfisque |
different beast. javaFX is for RIA, JSF is for webapps |
| 04:08 |
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sfisque |
like comparing JSP vs Swing |
| 04:09 |
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kotten |
yeah I guess. Me and a friend made a strategy game in javafx. Really liked it. Swing I never fell for |
| 04:10 |
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kotten |
sfisque Now I am on season 5 of TNG |
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sfisque |
:-D |
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pdurbin |
"Google has published our style guide for Java source code" -- https://plus.google.com/+googleguava/posts/9yFgv3ybeqS |
| 16:58 |
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pdurbin |
"The main job of such a guide is to promote consistency, which reduces distraction. When you're reading code, you want everything you notice about that code to be something that matters." |
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CJ_ |
Interesting. I'll have to take a look at that more later. |
| 17:10 |
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CJ_ |
Been debating adding in a style maven plugin to my projects. |
| 17:39 |
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pdurbin |
here's the one mongo uses: https://github.com/mongodb/mongo-java-driver/blob/3.0.x/config/checkstyle.xml |
| 17:39 |
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pdurbin |
via IRC logs for "Design is a Process, not a Document" by Trisha Gee - Google Drive - https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ZrbIT_tvCtQ0lABZ4ugJEobwl7YH_AIrrvBjXI4o1iw/edit |
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pdurbin |
heh. look like they have a "lite" version as well. not a bad idea |
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Jhosepth |
Hello Guys from Colombia |
| 18:19 |
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Jhosepth |
You could give me your opinion on which is considered a good library to work with excel in java, I appreciate your opinion. |
| 18:25 |
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sess |
POI is fine if xls is good enough |
| 18:25 |
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sess |
dont remember if it has xlsx support, though I think it does |
| 18:34 |
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sajjadg |
POI from apache is good enough for anything so far. Jhosepth |
| 18:35 |
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sess |
also I dont think many here are from colombia |
| 18:35 |
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pdurbin |
now I want some coffee :) |
| 18:36 |
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sajjadg |
pdurbin: me too. bring me one please :P |
| 18:37 |
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sajjadg |
Jhosepth: how's Colombia? you are the first hacker from Colombia I've seen :-) |
| 18:37 |
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Jhosepth |
Thanks sess and sajjadg. I Want basically to use an Excel book like l a data file for my application, and load the data using a third party library. |
| 18:37 |
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CJ_ |
I've used POI to read and write excel files. Works well. |
| 18:38 |
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sess |
uhhh |
| 18:38 |
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sess |
you are using excel as a database? |
| 18:38 |
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sajjadg |
Jhosepth: why? can't you just use another form of DB? do you have a working excel file? |
| 18:38 |
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sajjadg |
do you know you can convert them!? |
| 18:39 |
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sajjadg |
don't you miss SQL in excel?! :P |
| 18:42 |
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pdurbin |
Jhosepth: so you don't necessarily need xlsx support? xls support is enough? |
| 18:45 |
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pdurbin |
"Using databases for the primary storage of your content is a known antipattern" -- http://indiewebcamp.com/databases-antipattern |
| 18:45 |
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Jhosepth |
The users of my program actually have your data in a Excel sheet, they want to follow editing your data in Excel and to need a program that make something with it data. I have thought to use VBA but they(the users) don't want that the code of the program can be easily accesible. |
| 18:47 |
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CJ_ |
pdurbin, Interesting article. |
| 18:52 |
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whartung |
funny |
| 18:52 |
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sajjadg |
oh maaan, really jack? should I move to file!? :D come on... DBs are good boys... but files are handy sometimes. it's hard to handle strange data storages. it's not the best choice for most people |
| 18:53 |
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Jhosepth |
I think the same sajjadg. |
| 18:54 |
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whartung |
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/815626/to-do-or-not-to-do-store-images-in-a-database/815887#815887 |
| 18:54 |
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sajjadg |
Jhosepth: you said your users are using excel to enter their data right? and you want to stay with .xls just for that? |
| 18:55 |
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Jhosepth |
True sajjadg. |
| 18:57 |
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sajjadg |
Jhosepth: go have fun with POI ;) |
| 19:00 |
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* semiosis |
looks into apache poi |
| 19:01 |
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Jhosepth |
Basically the worksheet contains a list of pilot , copilot , technicians and gunners and they want from this list generate a list of crews to fly helicopters. The program is used inside an in an anti-narcotics base. |
| 19:03 |
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whartung |
so you want to import and / or export XLS file? |
| 19:06 |
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sajjadg |
Jhosepth: I think you just want to read from the excel and generate a report with Japer Report. that would be OK |
| 19:06 |
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Jhosepth |
I want to import the file with the data and process it and generate a pdf with the crews to fly helicopters. |
| 19:07 |
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whartung |
you should be able to do that with Jasper |
| 19:08 |
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sajjadg |
Jhosepth: POI can read and write to excel. so the read part is ready. then you can use Japser to generate a PDF report. many other formats are available in Japser. I don't know other tools for creating pdf. maybe someone mentions an alternative |
| 19:08 |
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whartung |
Jasper can use custom data sources, so you may have to write one using poi to read your XLS file. |
| 19:09 |
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Jhosepth |
I have working with IText to generate PDfs. |
| 19:09 |
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whartung |
I'm sorry :) |
| 19:10 |
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sajjadg |
Jhosepth: yeah. that's OK. Jasper needs that for pdf too :-) so you got to the root ;) |
| 19:10 |
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whartung |
yea, Jasper should ideally be a bit easier to use |
| 19:10 |
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whartung |
and be careful of iText, since it's AGPL |
| 19:10 |
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whartung |
(the 5.x one is, 2.x isn't) |
| 19:12 |
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sajjadg |
what's wrong with AGPL? |
| 19:12 |
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whartung |
if you have a public service, the public is entitled to the source of your app. |
| 19:12 |
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whartung |
I should say |
| 19:12 |
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whartung |
anyone who can access your app may ask for the source code to your app. |
| 19:13 |
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sajjadg |
wow. dangerous :P |
| 19:13 |
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sajjadg |
but who knows? |
| 19:13 |
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sajjadg |
:P |
| 19:13 |
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whartung |
yea. It's a good detail to know. |
| 19:14 |
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whartung |
yea, dunno. I don't know if iText embeds watermarks in their PDF files that make it clear to a read that it came from them or not. |
| 19:16 |
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sajjadg |
I don't think so |
| 19:17 |
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whartung |
but you don't know :) |
| 19:17 |
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whartung |
anyway, soothing to be keen about, is all |
| 19:17 |
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whartung |
*something |
| 19:18 |
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sajjadg |
yeah. thanks. i will check it more later |
| 19:18 |
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sajjadg |
good night. |
| 19:18 |
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whartung |
nn |
| 19:20 |
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Jhosepth |
Thanks for your opinions. |
| 19:21 |
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acuzio |
sajjadg seems to be one of the better aliases controlled by Quest |
| 19:22 |
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acuzio |
From what i know all of those guys are in the same company and so on - |
| 19:22 |
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acuzio |
whartung: hows you btw ? |
| 19:22 |
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whartung |
I'z good. |
| 19:22 |
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whartung |
hungry, but should be able to fix that soon... |
| 19:23 |
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whartung |
how u be? |
| 19:30 |
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Jhosepth |
Guys. Do you ever have created an installer for a Java program with a program without cost( that is free)? |
| 19:34 |
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sajjadg |
acuzio: I'm not from that company :-) |
| 19:35 |
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sajjadg |
Jhosepth: nsis |
| 19:35 |
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sajjadg |
Jhosepth: jinstaller |
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jmcveity |
Hello. Re-learning Java after 10 year hiatus. Only took college courses - no professional experience. Looking for book suggestions. I'm finding Head First to be annoying. |
| 19:40 |
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sajjadg |
jmcveity: I have "Thinking I Java" and that's one of the best. I also like "Core Java" but if you don't like to read books just go through Java Tutorial. you can download all of them in a gz file (big index) |
| 19:41 |
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sajjadg |
the Tutorial is update and faster to read/learn |
| 19:41 |
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sajjadg |
there's also a Java EE tutorial if you like to go that way (you should ;) ) |
| 19:42 |
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sess |
random tutorials are fine for the basics jmcveity |
| 19:42 |
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sess |
after that, Design Patterns, and Effective Java is very recommended |
| 19:42 |
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sess |
both assume you know all basic syntax and concepts |
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jmcveity |
sajjadg: Thanks. I don't mind the reading. I'm looking to refresh and some books assume no programming experience eg. Head First. |
| 19:45 |
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jmcveity |
sajjadg: You would suggest to follow the official tutorials then? I will check out those books you mentioned. |
| 19:45 |
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jmcveity |
sess: Thank you. |
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whartung |
come up with an app and write it. The tutorials do't mean much if you can't apply it |
| 19:49 |
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jmcveity |
Thanks for the help! Very much appreciated! |
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semiosis |
Jhosepth: i use the javafx native installer feature to make installers for a desktop app i'm building |
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Jhosepth |
Thanks for your help semiosis . I will to test it. |
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semiosis |
using the maven javafx plugin, of course. 'mvn jfx:native' builds the whole installer for my app |
| 20:04 |
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semiosis |
it's great |
| 20:04 |
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semiosis |
javaeebot: lucky maven javafx plugin |
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javaeebot |
semiosis: http://zenjava.com/javafx/maven/ |
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semiosis |
yep |
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Jhosepth |
semiosis , um, and what IDE are you using? |
| 20:13 |
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semiosis |
these days i'm all about intellij idea |
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semiosis |
but the maven thing works on the command line |
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semiosis |
all my workstations/laptops are kubuntu, but when i need to make a build of the app for mac or windows, that has to be done on a mac or windows machine, and i just do git pull & mvn jfx:native on the command line on those systems |
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sajjadg |
semiosis: you use JavaFX? how's that? do you use it for Desktop apps or web or mobile? |
| 20:36 |
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semiosis |
<3 it |
| 20:36 |
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semiosis |
currently only using it for desktop |
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sajjadg |
semiosis: I like git command line. it's very cool |
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semiosis |
afaik the mobile stuff is still very new |
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semiosis |
mobile javafx stuff |
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sajjadg |
yeah. it's not official |
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sajjadg |
it's going to replace swing in JDK9 |
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sajjadg |
and I hope it removes all awt, swing, applet packages |
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semiosis |
\o/ |
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sajjadg |
those are messy |
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Jhosepth |
semiosis , and do you use the commercial version? or the community version? |
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sajjadg |
intellij idea is free for java se but I don't like to get addicted to it and then suffer when I'm doing java ee coding :-/ |
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semiosis |
i'm using idea ultimate |
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semiosis |
and loving it |
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sajjadg |
idea is so lovable. |
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sajjadg |
but I don't want to crack it. /good boy sign/ and can't afford to buy it |
| 20:42 |
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sajjadg |
netbeans really improved in these years. I like it. just very heavy. should have at least 4G memory |
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Jhosepth |
I like use Netbeans in Ubuntu using xfce. |
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whartung |
I have a love/hate with Netbeans |
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semiosis |
i bought idea when they had a 75% off sale, now i'm renewing yearly at regular price & it's totally worth it |
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whartung |
but I think it's the best one for me. |
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semiosis |
i might apply for an open source developer license before my next renewal |
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whartung |
mostly it just slows down or goes stupid onme. very frustrating |
| 20:45 |
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whartung |
and I think it's maven integration is imperfect |
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whartung |
had several maven projects with libs it can't find (and thus 1/2 my lines go red i nteh IDE) |
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sajjadg |
whartung: me too. I hate to love it :P |
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sajjadg |
whartung: I don't have performance problem. and its maven plugin is way better than of eclipse |
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whartung |
our maven maven is an eclipse jockey, so, that's curious |
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sajjadg |
eclipse maven plugin (egit) is not cool. I had a problem and filed a bug. but they said it's not related! the problem was that when I was using maven clean and then runnig the project on server maven couldn't detect that it should build it first! |
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sajjadg |
eclipse 4.x is very bad. eclipse was good in 3.x version |
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sajjadg |
it's lost its cool after 3 |
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sajjadg |
who wants ice cream? |
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whartung |
https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/7117397248/hB231940E/ |
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sajjadg |
whartung: cool |
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Jhosepth |
Hello this is a list of java books that I have in pdf http://pastebin.com/j2nU85Fn, if someone wants a book can send me a email to jose.luis.pulido88 hotmail.com with the name of the book. Someone have books about apache POI that can share with me , I will to be gratefull , thanks. |
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semiosis |
apache camel for php... go! |
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semiosis |
anyone know of something like that? |
