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IRC log for #javaee, 2013-12-21

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Time S Nick Message
00:46 neuro_sys javier: haha good nick
00:46 neuro_sys anyone read 1984 here?
00:46 whartung no, saw the commercial tho
00:46 javier neuro_sys: why is it good? :)
00:47 * javier has seen the movie
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01:31 whartung hey sfisque
01:31 whartung on my way out until next year
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01:31 whartung today is your last day, yea?
01:33 sfisque1 was.  yes.  i'm a "free man" now :P
01:42 pdurbin sfisque: if you're worried about your channel getting stale, I can send my logbot in
01:45 sfisque it's all good.  once i get the irc jca adapter done, it's just going to be a test spam channel
01:45 pdurbin ok
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15:29 sajjadg pdurbin: hi. I have the opportunity to have a workshop in a computer conference. I'm familiar with Linux (more) and Java (less) and some other things. do you have suggestion about it? did you see any Linux related workshop in academic conferences ?
15:34 pdurbin sajjadg: yes, you should hold a workshop. sounds great
15:36 sajjadg pdurbin: I want to but I don't know what it's good to say in those workshops!
15:37 pdurbin sajjadg: what are you excited about?
15:38 sajjadg pdurbin: Lots of things :)
15:38 sajjadg brb
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15:55 sajjadg pdurbin: I like Free software philosophy, and Introducing people to Linux, etc.
15:57 sajjadg I like to talk about new movement in software development but I don't now if they'd be aspire about it
16:02 pdurbin what's the new movement? open source?
16:10 pdurbin sajjadg: functional programming? :)
16:11 sajjadg pdurbin: about what's SOA and what is Service based arch.
16:11 sajjadg pdurbin: cloud
16:11 pdurbin sure, SOA is a good topic
16:11 sajjadg pdurbin: REST
16:12 pdurbin sajjadg: have you read the steve yeggie rant about soa?
16:13 pdurbin here it is: Rip Rowan - Google+ - Stevey's Google Platforms Rant I was at Amazon for about… - https://plus.google.com/+RipRowan/posts/eVeouesvaVX
16:13 pdurbin Steve Yegge*
16:14 sajjadg pdurbin: :-/ right now I have problem accessing G+
16:15 sajjadg in Iran they censord like every social network
16:15 pdurbin bah
16:15 pdurbin sajjadg: can you get to http://danceb.in ?
16:15 sajjadg pdurbin: bah is exactly what Iranian say in this situations :D
16:16 sajjadg it has dance in it :P let me check
16:16 pdurbin :)
16:16 sajjadg pdurbin: danceb.in is OK
16:17 sajjadg those morons also filtered pastebin!
16:17 neuro_sys same here in Turkey for pastebin
16:18 pdurbin sajjadg: here you go: Steve Yegge's rant about SOA, Amazon, and Google Dancebin! - http://danceb.in/9tgfFlq4xGgQyDwl9DNYg
16:18 sajjadg neuro_sys: Turkey?! why? they say they have freedom of speech and other stuff!
16:18 neuro_sys sajjadg: not with the latest government for some years
16:19 sajjadg neuro_sys: I think they are secular aren't they?
16:19 neuro_sys only officially, but they're making it obvious that they want an islamic state
16:20 neuro_sys I think they'd like sharia
16:20 neuro_sys but there's too much opposition to that in the population
16:20 neuro_sys so I don't think that's likely ever happen
16:21 sajjadg neuro_sys: referendum is the answer
16:21 neuro_sys it's soon to be
16:23 pdurbin sajjadg: dancebin is better anyway :)
16:27 pdurbin sajjadg: whartung and I hang out in #rest if you're interested
16:28 sajjadg pdurbin: thanks man
16:28 acuzio Is the world famous Quest here ?
16:31 sess the quest for quest has begun
16:35 sfisque the new puzzle based game… where in the interwebs is Quest?
16:44 pdurbin javaeebot: lucky sharia
16:44 javaeebot pdurbin: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sharia
16:45 pdurbin oh. moral code. religious law
16:46 sajjadg neuro_sys: what do your people think about war in Syria?
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19:01 sajjadg http://www.reactivemanifesto.org/
19:05 pdurbin sajjadg: is this about FRP? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Functional_reactive_programming
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19:06 sajjadg pdurbin: I don't know. that was on play framework site
19:08 sajjadg http://programmers.stackexchange.com/questions/102090/why-isnt-java-used-for-modern-web-application-development
19:11 acuzio sajjadg: that question and answer is absolutely true
19:11 acuzio I mean really JavaEE as a thing is nonsense and should not exist
19:12 sajjadg acuzio: !!! why?! read the answer and how people opposed to that question in general.
19:13 neuro_sys has Quest been found?
19:13 acuzio sajjadg: i read the answer - most people there dont know what they are talking about ?
19:13 acuzio neuro_sys: sadly no - apparently Sircle is also Quest
19:13 neuro_sys what, really?
19:14 pdurbin huh
19:16 acuzio neuro_sys: Yes - Sircle is Mahmood -> Quest has been identified as Mahmood -> ergo, Sircle == Quest
19:16 acuzio All of these guys are from the same Pakistan based company ; i suspect more than 1 person uses these accounts
19:16 neuro_sys I suspect cem is also one of them
19:17 sajjadg Pakistani people wrote the first Virus in the world!
19:19 acuzio and so is sajjadg from the looks of it
19:19 acuzio sajjadg: And your point is ?
19:20 acuzio poor Alex - never stood a chance
19:31 sfisque i love when people accuse this channel of not knowing anything and javaee being nonsense
19:35 pdurbin so far so good with this channel
19:42 sajjadg acuzio: that's interesting. first virus came from a country with poor internet connection at that time.
20:07 neuro_sys by the Farooq Alvi Brothers in Lahore, Pakistan, reportedly to deter piracy of the software they had written.
20:07 neuro_sys lol they didn't intend it to be a virus it seems
20:08 neuro_sys ah no
20:11 sajjadg they are still alive and have a little computer company :)
20:25 Sircle sfisque: I got away so replying late. You must have +f to assign yourself a +O. Or ask someone (that is a higher position, yes.) to give you +O. Your welcome.
20:27 acuzio sajjadg: its not interesting if it was not developed to be a virus but became one by accident - it would be called a bug now
20:33 sajjadg http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ECHELON
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23:06 sfisque that's pretty much how the first worm arose as well… accident

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