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how's this for an odyssey. i've managed to rip and virtualize my windows setup (work notebook) into a virtualbox vm. now i'm building solaris 11 vm on my macintosh so i can prove out if i can get the corp vpn working on solaris, so i can format my win7 notebook to be solaris 11 and run the corp win7 setup inside virtualbox (small enough to just give me outlook/calendar) and do all my dev on solaris natively :P |
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http://www.coderanch.com/t/605414/Web-Services/java/RESTlet-slower-Axis |
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neuro_sys |
interestin |
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Kda |
Hi all! I need help with IBM WebSphere. I have MDB which I have to temporarily stop once a day, I tried using synchronized in timer thread with Objects created in MDB, but it was not working good. Later I read that synchronization and thread working is not supported in MDB by specs. I read that there is a Work Manager and it can run threads. But I need syncronization with timer thread. If I make a Work with MDB code using synchronized, |
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acuzio |
Quest : well done - i am glad it worked - but did you have to use synchronized |
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Kda |
I have database which has service operation once a day. This operation does not work with database operations invoked in MDB. |
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acuzio |
Kda: ask Quest |
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pdurbin |
Kda: did you finish your thought? You ended with a , |
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Kda |
@pdurbin: I don't see ending with ','. I have finished. |
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crimsonfubot |
Kda: Error: "pdurbin:" is not a valid command. |
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Kda |
pdurbin: I don't see ending with ','. I have finished. |
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Kda |
acuzio: Sorry, don't understand about 'Quest' |
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acuzio |
Kda: Quest is one of the mods here and a very specialized programmer , he solves these problems everyday |
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pdurbin |
I should probably change crimsonfubot's shortcut character from @ to something else |
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pdurbin |
Kda: here is the , I'm talking about: http://irclog.greptilian.com/javaee/2013-09-12#i_22463 |
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Kda |
pdurbin: That's bad. In my webchat it displays correctly. The ending was 'will it be OK? Thanks' |
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Kda |
acuzio: I don't see Quest here online. Doesn't you know, when can I ask him for help? |
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pdurbin |
Kda: thanks. I wish I could help |
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acuzio |
Kda: wait here - he will be here shortly - he solved something like this yesterday |
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Kda |
acuzio: Thank you |
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acuzio |
he is very good with Threading and synchronization |
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pdurbin |
Kda: sometimes Quest writes up his questions on http://stackoverflow.com ... you might consider doing the same |
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Kda |
pdurbin: Yes, I know about StackOverflow. Thank you. |
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sl33k |
Kda: what is your question? |
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Kda |
sl33k: I need help with IBM WebSphere. I have MDB which I have to temporarily stop once a day, I tried using synchronized in timer thread with Objects created in MDB, but it was not working good. Later I read that synchronization and thread working is not supported in MDB by specs. I read that there is a Work Manager and it can run threads. But I need syncronization with timer thread. If I make a Work with MDB code using synchronized, |
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sl33k |
Kda: What is MDB? Message Driven Beans? Are you in a Java EE container? |
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sl33k |
there is a TimerService in Java EE |
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Kda |
sl33k: Yes, Message-Driven Beans. I use WebSphere. Already found TimerManager, trying to work with it. But synchronization might be cool. |
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pdurbin |
I don't know much about MDBs. I didn't know you could stop them: http://mike-lehmann.blogspot.com/2006/10/stopping-mdb-via-jmx.html |
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Kda |
pdurbin: That's great. I tried to look for this, but didn't have result. But I don't have production credentials. |
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neuro_sys |
https://gist.github.com/neuro-sys/6536423 |
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neuro_sys |
Does anyone have any idea about this? |
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tjsnell |
jar hell! |
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tjsnell |
with an added IBM hell bonus |
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tjsnell |
you have two different libs loading different versions of the same thing |
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neuro_sys |
yeah figured, same class name from different packages |
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neuro_sys |
one from my intended jar, the other from WAS server runtime. |
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neuro_sys |
a useless shit |
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tjsnell |
I just say no to any projects involving WAS these days |
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fabioportieri |
morning |
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Kda |
Hello, Quest! May I ask you for help? |
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Quest |
Kda, sure |
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Quest |
but you should just ask your questions in channel. without pointing anyone. who ever knew the answer or had time. will answer. |
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Kda |
Yes, I asked before and was adviced to ask you for help |
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Kda |
I need help with IBM WebSphere. I have MDB which I have to temporarily stop once a day, I tried using synchronized in timer thread with Objects created in MDB, but it was not working good. Later I read that synchronization and thread working is not supported in MDB by specs. I read that there is a Work Manager and it can run threads. But I need syncronization with timer thread. If I make a Work with MDB code using synchronized |
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Kda |
will it be OK? |
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Kda |
I used TimerManager and scheduled MDB code with delay, but synchronized might be cool |
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Quest |
Kda, threading in EE containers is considered bad. |
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Kda |
Quest, but I thought there may be a workaround. Starting new Thread is bad, but using WorkManager it is OK. |
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fabioportieri |
if you use websphere internals it's ok indeed |
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Quest |
keep in mind, you cannot use synchronized blocks in an EE container if you ever move the product from spring to ee. you can deadlock the container and it's explicitly forbidden in the spec (though you CAN do it, but if you break it, you get to keep both halves :-) chapter 24 iirc There are constructs in the java.util.concurrent package specifically for doing similar things like synchronized but without synchronized. you're in a pooled multithreaded |
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Quest |
env |
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Quest |
this was already discussed yesterday Kda ^ |
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Quest |
why in the world ee and servlet containers dont support sync blocks? because they don't need to, they have other mechanisms . because you're in a pooled multithreaded env |
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Quest |
Kda, ^ |
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Quest |
why in the world ee and EE* containers dont support sync blocks? |
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Quest |
^ |
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Kda |
But (maybe stupid question) java.util.concurrent contains, i.e. Semaphore. So may I use Semaphore and not get problems with j2ee container? |
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fabioportieri |
if you're using a semaphore then it means you have more than one thread |
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Kda |
fabioportieri: Yes, I have MDBs and one timer thread. |
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fabioportieri |
why you need timer thread? |
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Kda |
Because I run service db stored procedure once a day |
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tjsnell |
that's a bad way to do that |
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Kda |
Which one is good? |
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tjsnell |
use the Timer service |
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fabioportieri |
in mysql there is a scheduler |
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fabioportieri |
i guess every dbms has his own system |
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tjsnell |
no |
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tjsnell |
use the jee one |
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Kda |
I use db2, didn't look about it, but I should stop writing to DB from MDBs |
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tjsnell |
don't weld to your db |
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Kda |
I used websphere timer manager, but in common case there may be situation when I won't know what delay should be |
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* Naros |
misses PL/SQL from Oracle. TSQL drives me bonkers. |
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Naros |
why must one create a separate variable to concatenate a string before you can pass the concatenated string to a stored procedure call >.< |
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* Naros |
places forehead to desk. |
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Kda |
Unfortunately, I have to go. Thanks acuzio, pdurbin, sl33k, Quest, fabioportieri, tjsnell. Good bye. |
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fabioportieri |
bye bye Kda |
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* Naros |
waves to Kda. |
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fabioportieri |
i have to go too bye bye |
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Naros |
take care fabio. |
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acuzio |
did Kda sort it out - |
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acuzio |
Quest: did you help him ? |
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Quest |
acuzio, I hope so |
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acuzio |
Quest: Oh did you tell him to use Database and synchronization inside an EE container , is he using an EE container ? |
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Quest |
webspere i think.yes |
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acuzio |
So he can use Database with that and that should just work |
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aumji |
Java SUCKS! |
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SoniEx2 |
and u 2 ;) |
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aumji |
why you not ? |
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SoniEx2 |
well I'm gay so I guess I suck too... :P |
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aumji |
hmm |
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aumji |
Java Sucks ! Who uses Java are Crazy crap |
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SoniEx2 |
Java me and you are all gay because we all suck :P |
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aumji |
Why the fuck we need Java |
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aumji |
Java is for Morons .. Only for Morons |
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SoniEx2 |
I use D... and JNI... (blame Minecraft for not being written in D) |
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SoniEx2 |
what's D? well... #YOLO >:D |
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aumji |
I use many :P even Perl at times I hate Java Language |
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SoniEx2 |
damn that didn't work :/ |
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SoniEx2 |
ok dickhead, so... I can't troll you back... you win... bitch... ¬_¬ |
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aumji |
ok fuck face , yes! |
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aumji |
JAVA SUCKS ! |
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aumji |
OO SUCKS! |
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aumji |
Die ALL for using it , fucking morons |
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whartung |
Where do these people come from, and why are they attracted here? |
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tjsnell |
something about this place attracts idiots |
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Naros |
wth was that all about :S |
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SoniEx2 |
well I tried to troll a troll... I failed :/ |
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SoniEx2 |
someone teach me how to troll... |
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* Naros |
comforts SoniEx2. |
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SoniEx2 |
and I'm trying to drink half a liter of DHMO :/ |
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SoniEx2 |
(/random) |
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Naros |
DHMO? |
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SoniEx2 |
dihydrogen monoxide |
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Naros |
>.< |
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Cratylus |
Hello |
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Naros |
Hello. |
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Cratylus |
I can't find a ##java room does this pretty much take over it? |
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Naros |
Cratylus: No, there is also the ##java channel too. |
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tjsnell |
##java is there |
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tjsnell |
registered nick required |
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Cratylus |
doesn't even show up in the freenode room list and says invalid channel when I try to join. |
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Cratylus |
have some general java questions. :) |
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Naros |
fire away. |
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tjsnell |
if you haven't registered with nick serv you can't join |
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Cratylus |
I am a super noob at java. Trying to use it more for other things. |
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tjsnell |
and it shows up in my list, not sure why you can't see it |
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Cratylus |
I was looking for a guide or instructions on the web how to do a update program with java that is pretty simple. |
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Cratylus |
I should be registered |
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Quest |
Cratylus, http://docs.oracle.com/javase/tutorial/ |
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Quest |
Cratylus, what do you mean by update program? |
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* Quest |
leaves for dinner |
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Cratylus |
ok another quick question |
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Cratylus |
Anyone use the Android Eclipse? |
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Cratylus |
with their IDE? |
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Naros |
I do not. |
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tjsnell |
why not use Android Studio? |
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tjsnell |
much better foundation and the official ide |
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pdurbin |
Cratylus: I tried it once and was able to build https://github.com/ginatrapani/todo.txt-android with it |
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pdurbin |
and then sideload the app onto my phone |
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pdurbin |
whartung: wait. have you used OpenAM before or not? I forget |
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whartung |
no I have not used it directly |
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pdurbin |
bummer. I'm already a little lost in the docs |
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whartung |
that's why I suggested the other thing if all yu needed was the SP side |
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pdurbin |
whartung: yeah. OIOSAML. Well, I emailed the list anyway: [OpenAM] Getting started with Shibboleth/SAML and the OpenAM Federation module - https://lists.forgerock.org/pipermail/openam/2013-September/013795.html |
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pdurbin |
of course, now that I'm looking at my browser history I see this: [OpenAM] openam as an SP (service provider) shibbolteh - https://lists.forgerock.org/pipermail/openam/2012-June/006831.html |
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whartung |
I'm sure it's possible, just the 90% of the documentation is for managing the IdP side of the system, not the SP |
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pdurbin |
right. like this is perfect for IdP: http://blogs.forgerock.org/petermajor/2011/10/federation-with-shibboleth-sp-apache-module/ |
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pdurbin |
"Today the goal is to achieve SSO between an OpenAM IdP and a Shibboleth SP with the simplest settings as possible" ... but I want the opposite, basically |
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whartung |
yea |
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whartung |
which IdP are you using? |
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pdurbin |
whartung: http://testshib.org |
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Cratylus |
Thanks tjsnell looking into that. |
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pdurbin |
whartung: I got a reply already. I'm being told OpenAM doesn't work with Glassfish 3.x or later: https://lists.forgerock.org/pipermail/openam/2013-September/013796.html |
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pdurbin |
"Due to version mismatch in WebService stack (Metro) OpenAM does not work OOTB with GF 3.x or later; you need to get rid of Metro." |
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Quest |
there isnt an easy way to get String.indexOf() for "last occurence" instead of first. correct me if iam wrong? |
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Quest |
except lastindexOf(). |
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whartung |
wow nice pdurbin |
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Quest |
nevemind. ^ |
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whartung |
"thanks a lot" |
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pdurbin |
whartung: hmm? :) |
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whartung |
OpenAM and GF/Metro |
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pdurbin |
whartung: there's more. a guy joined #openam and is helping me out: [#OPENAM-1219] SAML 2 metadata parsing breaks in glassfish 3.1.2 - ForgeRock JIRA - https://bugster.forgerock.org/jira/browse/OPENAM-1219 |
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pdurbin |
whartung: how does `pkg uninstall glassfish-full-profile glassfish-full-incorporation metro` grab you? |
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whartung |
seems…extreme |
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pdurbin |
because that's the work around. for glassfish 3.1.2 anyway. doesn't work with 3.1.2.2 sounds like |
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pdurbin |
yeah, no kidding |
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whartung |
because you can downgrade metro in GF (should be able to) |
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pdurbin |
hmm. ok |
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whartung |
I mean, you can upgrade it -- if you can upgrade, perhaps you can downgrade it. |
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whartung |
but just funny |
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whartung |
we don't even use the WS stack for our SAML stuff |
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pdurbin |
whartung: they other thing is that OpenAM needs to be in its own container, it turns out. I was hoping it could be more... integrated into our app... all in the same container |
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whartung |
well for the SP, it should be. |
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whartung |
more nonsense. SP shouldn't be more than a filter and/or a servlet |
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whartung |
it's not that big a deal |
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whartung |
for an IdP, sure, whatever. that's a different problem |
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pdurbin |
OIOSAML seems to be just a filter |
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whartung |
yea, that's all you need |
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whartung |
orchestration with the filter and a session, mostly |
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pdurbin |
right |
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pdurbin |
anyway, obviously I need to do some more reading and research. I'm glad I reached out the the OpenAM list and IRC channel though. They're very friendly |
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