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Eliza_S |
Hi there ! |
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aditsu |
hi |
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Eliza_S |
Guys , do you have any advice of what book should I start with as a beginner in Java ? |
| 12:19 |
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aditsu |
I would recommend the oracle java tutorials - https://docs.oracle.com/javase/tutorial/ |
| 12:21 |
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Eliza_S |
So that would be a good start. |
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Eliza_S |
I know the oracle tutorials |
| 12:21 |
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Eliza_S |
did you also had a book at the beginning? |
| 12:22 |
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aditsu |
I don't think I learned from a book |
| 12:22 |
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Eliza_S |
And what other channel I can join here in order to find more about Java ? |
| 12:22 |
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Eliza_S |
A! |
| 12:22 |
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Eliza_S |
It seems easy though in comparison wtih other programming languages |
| 12:23 |
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aditsu |
there's ##java , but they can be quite rude |
| 12:23 |
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Eliza_S |
I could not join that channel |
| 12:24 |
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Eliza_S |
I don't know from what reason |
| 12:24 |
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Eliza_S |
But I know people tend to be rude with the beginners here |
| 12:24 |
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Eliza_S |
:) |
| 12:24 |
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aditsu |
well, not in this channel :) |
| 12:24 |
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Eliza_S |
That's great |
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Eliza_S |
:P |
| 12:25 |
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aditsu |
I heard of "Head First Java", not sure how good it is, but it's probably ok |
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Eliza_S |
on freenode ? |
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aditsu |
I mean the book |
| 12:26 |
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Eliza_S |
A! sorry |
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aditsu |
I don't know other general java channels |
| 12:26 |
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Eliza_S |
So , if you don't mind , how did you learn it? I know that we all have our own way of learning |
| 12:28 |
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aditsu |
mainly from the tutorials (online) |
| 12:28 |
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aditsu |
I knew other languages before that |
| 12:29 |
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Eliza_S |
A! so I guess that helped to learn it faster |
| 12:29 |
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aditsu |
yeah |
| 12:30 |
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Eliza_S |
How can I ask how much time did it take you to learn it ? Of course, it depends on each individual...but just asking |
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aditsu |
I think I also had an introductory course in uni, but I didn't really use java at that time so I forgot most of it |
| 12:32 |
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aditsu |
I probably took a week or 2 to learn the basics, maybe a couple of months to get familiar with it |
| 12:36 |
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Eliza_S |
Oh ! I get your point. So at this point ,how many language to you use/know ? |
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aditsu |
I know many languages, at different levels of proficiency |
| 12:38 |
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Eliza_S |
Well , I know that's the key somehow..to know as many languages as you can |
| 12:38 |
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Eliza_S |
How about C++? |
| 12:39 |
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aditsu |
I used to be great at C++, I haven't used it in recent years though so I forgot some |
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Eliza_S |
oh wow |
| 12:41 |
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Eliza_S |
that's great though... |
| 12:42 |
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Eliza_S |
People adviced me to start with Java , although I wanted to start with C++ |
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aditsu |
java is definitely easier |
| 12:42 |
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aditsu |
but for a first language, I would recommend python |
| 12:44 |
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Eliza_S |
why not java? |
| 12:44 |
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Eliza_S |
I did a bit of python |
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aditsu |
it's still fairly complicated for a beginner |
| 12:45 |
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Eliza_S |
I'm gonna give it a try |
| 12:45 |
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Eliza_S |
I like it so far |
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Eliza_S |
I'm very persistent |
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aditsu |
alright |
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Eliza_S |
Thank you for being so kind in answering to my questions |
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aditsu |
haha no worries |
| 12:49 |
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Eliza_S |
I'll come back everytime I have a question though :)) |
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aditsu |
sure, I'm going out soon but will be around later |
| 12:50 |
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Eliza_S |
Great! Good to know ! See you later on then |
| 12:50 |
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Eliza_S |
Have a nice day |
| 12:50 |
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Eliza_S |
and once again , thanks :) |
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pdurbin |
Eliza_S: if it helps, I learned a little Java from a book in the 90s but I when helped me a lot was a class I took maybe 10 years ago. It was sort of a intermediate class, I guess, but they covered the basics to get everyone up to speed. Like aditsu I also recommend the official tutorials from Oracle. |
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Eliza_S |
Hi pduribin! Thank you for the advice. I'm already trying the offcial tutorials from Oracle. I'm also looking for a book, but I guess it has to not be an old one , something more updated. I wanna solve exercises from the book too so that I can learn faster |
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Eliza_S |
. |
| 15:54 |
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pdurbin |
I wonder if there are any katas out there for Java. They can be fun. |
| 15:55 |
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Eliza_S |
I never heard of such thing |
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Eliza_S |
:) |
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pdurbin |
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kata_(programming) |
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Eliza_S |
I knew it has something to do with martial arts , but I just just not able to make the connection haha |
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Eliza_S |
Thanks :() |
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pdurbin |
Yeah, I only mentioned it because you said you like exercises. |
| 16:17 |
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Eliza_S |
yes, this is a way that I like to learn. |
| 16:17 |
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pdurbin |
I've seen katas where the test suite is failing and your job is to fix the code to get the tests passing. Pretty neat. I forget what language that was. |
| 16:17 |
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Eliza_S |
Makes it easier for me |
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aditsu |
Eliza_S: I found this: https://www.w3resource.com/java-exercises/ |
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Eliza_S |
oh great! Thank you so much! |
| 17:13 |
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Eliza_S |
That is what I was looking for |
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Eliza_S |
:) |
