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IRC log for #friendlyjava, 2019-11-16

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08:33 enrio hi Jantz
08:33 enrio pdurbin, wats up?
08:34 Jantz hello enrio how are you?
08:34 enrio good, how about you?
08:34 enrio what are you learning?
08:34 Jantz yeah doing good thanks
08:35 Jantz learning C programming at the mo gona move back to java once i have c/c++ down pat who knows i might not get there lol
08:36 Jantz what about yourself?
08:36 enrio C has nothing to do with java
08:37 Jantz i heard C is the best place to start though, so im just tinkering with how binary fits into the picture with ascii code just figuring it all out
08:39 enrio C is a bad place to start
08:39 Jantz what about yourself are you a seasoned pro or still learning or?
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08:43 enrioog sorry about that
08:45 enrio im less experienced guy
08:45 enrio than aditsu or pdurbin
08:55 enrio Jantz what compiler are you using for C?
08:56 Jantz i think its MSVC the default c compiler on visual studio
09:02 enrio is you're OS windows?
09:04 enrio btw Java has nothing to do with C
09:05 Jantz yeah windows 10 home and you?
09:06 Jantz enrio?
09:06 enrio Ubuntu 16.04 LTS
09:07 Jantz all the best programming applications are written in c/c++ though i think
09:07 Jantz i tried ubuntu but it wouldnt work
09:07 Jantz mint too and a half a dozen other linux distros
09:07 enrio you can try suse
09:07 enrio much easier than ubuntu
09:08 Jantz one day ill probably get around to it but im happy with my win10 at the mo
09:08 Jantz tried freebsd too but i know there are lots of them
09:09 Jantz will probably get lucky oneday
09:09 enrio freebsd is cleaner
09:11 Jantz have you done any kernel programming or?
09:15 enrio never
09:16 Jantz thats what i wouldnt mind doing on some linux distros for practice for closed source perfection
09:25 enrio what you wouldnt mind?
09:28 Jantz im not exactly sure but advancing a linux distro
09:28 enrio and what is the standard are you using? for C
09:28 enrio advancing a linux distro?
09:28 enrio you will create a new distro of yours?
09:28 enrio thats what it means
09:28 Jantz yeah, im just touching the tip of the C iceberg with a book but will read all free C books i can find
09:30 Jantz nah will probably just collaborate on open source C projects, and hopefully get to help with a linux distro
09:30 enrio what book is that?
09:30 enrio does it has name and author?
09:31 Jantz its just a beginner book but its not the greatest will look into further advanced books as i go and bounce heads with some pros on discord and irc to clarify/cement the knowledge
09:32 Jantz there are lots of free pdfs out there
09:32 enrio you never said the name of the book or author :P
09:33 Jantz i dont want to recommend it it might be the wrong move im not in the position to
09:33 enrio omg , what is the name of the book?
09:34 Jantz its just a beginner book i found on google, you can find it on google but dont blame me if its not good ok, youll find it its just an absolute beginner C book if you search those terms you will find it
09:35 Jantz but like i said dont blame me if its not the right book to be learning i just stumbled across it
09:36 Jantz ive found its not as in depth as i would have liked but i think its aim is just to get you going
09:38 Jantz probably need to get efficiency books, security books as well
09:43 Jantz i believe efficient optimal secure quality code is what you want to be producing
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10:03 enrio yes
10:03 enrio preferfed is O(1) or O(logn)
10:04 enrio and good luck making it secure
10:06 enrio btw i have no interest knowing youre name of the book
10:07 enrio you can hide it from the world :P
10:08 Jantz is english your second language? nah im just not in a position to recommend but its all good
10:09 enrio yes english is my second language
10:10 enrio what do you mean by recommending?
10:10 enrio why would i ask from a kid?
10:11 Jantz i am a pup but im not a kid
10:12 enrio okay
10:14 Jantz so you're a java programmer enrio?
10:15 Jantz are you Oracle certified or?
10:17 enrio im not recommending anything
10:17 enrio just google java
10:18 Jantz yeah ive got a oracle book ill get around to studying once i get c down pat
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10:24 enrio google for Oracle certified Jantz
10:24 enrio im not recommeding it
10:24 enrio lol
10:24 enrio kiddish behavior == kid not pup
10:28 Jantz haha so enrio do you collaborate on any open source projects and talk on SO?
10:28 Jantz answer questions rather?
10:28 Jantz or ask?
10:28 enrio do you do any of those?
10:29 enrio ask yourself first.
10:29 Jantz sometimes i read answers on SO, and read open source code yeah
10:29 enrio im on SO for past 10 years
10:29 Jantz far out that is a long time
10:29 enrio dont try to point at me
10:30 Jantz just curious
10:30 enrio dont try to point at me
10:30 enrio curious for what reason?
10:30 Jantz chat and collaboration efforts
10:31 enrio Oh! god
10:31 enrio good luck.
10:32 enrio i wont take that answer
10:33 enrio you blunty say i dont want to give the name of the book and dont give filler of not recommeding things.
10:34 enrio and never act too smart :)
10:38 Jantz im constantly doing analysis on things
10:39 enrio good for you
10:43 Jantz so youve been in the game for some time yeah? are you collaborating on any opensource projects? or do you make closed source programs?
10:46 enrio Jantz, what are you doing?
10:46 enrio you have been on coding for sometime
10:46 enrio what have you done?
10:47 enrio any opensource or closed source program
10:47 Jantz shouldnt really answer a question with a question
10:47 enrio well i'm asking you
10:47 Jantz i asked you first
10:47 enrio i asked you later
10:48 Jantz how about catchya later
10:48 enrio lolz troller
10:48 Jantz left ##friendlyjava
11:37 aditsu enrio: why are you acting like that?
11:38 enrio i'm sorry , it was kind of disturbing
11:39 enrio it was like question session on interview but the interviewer never speaks a word on what he is working on.
12:39 pdurbin enrio: just waking up. How's it going?
12:40 enrio pdurbin, which time you follow? EST PST, CST
12:40 enrio did i miss anything
12:40 enrio MST
12:40 pdurbin EST
12:41 enrio isnt it hard to follow? i never understood this day light saving and so many time
12:42 enrio gm
12:42 pdurbin It's easier now when your smartphone has a different time than your microwave. You change your microwave to match.
12:51 mr_lou enrio, Looking at your chat conversation, you don't belong here. You should just go to #java where they talk like that to each other. This is not the place.
12:51 mr_lou This here is exactly the place people come to to avoid shit talk like that.
12:52 enrio mr_lou, thought you ignored me
12:53 mr_lou That was nanooz or whatever your other nick was.
12:53 mr_lou Now stop acting like that.
12:54 pdurbin enrio: can you tell us about any programming projects you're working on?
12:55 enrio i have my own startup
12:56 pdurbin recently launched, right?
12:56 enrio yes
12:56 pdurbin how's that going?
12:56 enrio not that good!
12:56 enrio its not a job
12:58 pdurbin yeah, very different
12:58 enrio yes!
12:59 enrio not that different
12:59 enrio we use to work for a company and get paid
12:59 enrio now you own the company
12:59 pdurbin ah, you have a co founder
13:00 enrio nope :(
13:00 pdurbin :(
13:01 pdurbin mr_lou: hey, I finally bought a TV and now I'm in the market for a bluray player. Should I just buy whatever combo DVD/bluray they sell at the store near me? Does it matter?
13:04 mr_lou pdurbin, Well... preferences vary...  I usually go for Sony players.
13:04 mr_lou But... yea.. I think any new player will do fien.
13:04 mr_lou *fine
13:05 mr_lou And all blu-ray players can play DVD, so no need to look for any special combo player.
13:05 pdurbin Oh! I didn't know that.
13:06 pdurbin And if I want to encourage my kids to make creative blu-ray content like you do, do they have to use old versions of Java? Or is there some other way?
13:07 mr_lou Yes, it's all old version Java.
13:07 mr_lou Java 1.3
13:08 mr_lou But I don't think it's for kids.
13:08 mr_lou Blu-ray Disc Java games are for geeks who seek a challenge in limited platforms.
13:08 mr_lou Kids should use GameMaker or something and target other platforms. :-)
13:08 mr_lou Anyway, I gotta go do some shopping. Back later.
13:10 pdurbin hmm, you probably mean https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GameMaker_Studio , thanks
14:12 mr_lou back
14:32 pdurbin I'm just trying to say that I've got creative kids and I'm wondering if we buy a blu-ray player if that opens up more options for making stuff.
14:55 mr_lou Blu-ray Disc Java is interested if you'd like to target the game consoles while skipping any approval process.
14:56 mr_lou Or if you want to target standard blu-ray players.
15:29 pdurbin ok, thanks
15:35 mr_lou I think kids in general would be more interested in targeting PC though.
15:35 mr_lou Thus, Gamemaker... or similar.
15:35 mr_lou Unity maybe.
17:00 pdurbin more interested in mobile, I'd say, my kids anyway
17:03 mr_lou Then it's also Unity.
17:03 mr_lou Or some other tool that lets them target multiple platforms, including phones.
17:50 enrio well i went for a walk

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