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12:28 deavmiLaptopHome Morning all
12:46 aditsu deavmiLaptopHome: evening ^_^
13:27 deavmiLaptopHome aditsu, eyo :)
13:32 * mr_lou made an eBook version of his 8-bit Memoirs project
13:32 mr_lou http://www.8bitmemoirs.com/dl/1/8bitMemoirs-Issue1.epub
13:32 mr_lou http://www.8bitmemoirs.com/dl/1/8bitMemoirs-Issue1.pdf
14:21 pdurbin mr_lou: hmm, on Android, it says "Can't open file" for the epub. Usually it gets imported into Play Books.
14:24 mr_lou Weird. :-/
14:24 mr_lou Works fine on all the readers I've tested on, including one for JavaME.
14:27 mr_lou Faulty download maybe?
14:27 mr_lou pdurbin, Try re-downloading.
14:47 mr_lou pdurbin, Girlfriend has no problem opening on Android with Lithium.
14:47 mr_lou What reader are you using?
14:48 pdurbin Play Books. It's built in to Android.
14:52 mr_lou pdurbin, Play Books also works here. She has to "upload to play books" first though. Can't find any version number anywhere...
14:54 pdurbin Ah, glad it works for her.
14:56 mr_lou It's the first time I've ever created an ePub, so it's likely I've done something wrong.
15:00 pdurbin I've never made an ePub either but I always go for them over PDF on mobile.
15:45 mr_lou pdurbin, Had someone else test with Play Books, also works fine. Are you sure your download is alright?
15:46 mr_lou https://i.imgur.com/apY8O2g.png
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17:01 pdurbin When I tap it in "Files" I see META-INF and other stuff.
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17:32 mr_lou Weird.
17:32 mr_lou Sorry I don't know what's wrong.
17:33 mr_lou It was created with Calibre.
17:33 pdurbin That's ok, I just thought I'd give you a heads up.
17:42 mr_lou Yea, thanks.
17:42 mr_lou Will see if anyone else complains. I don't expect a whole lot of interest though.
18:00 pdurbin well, more people can read PDFs than Blu-rays so it's good to put it out there
18:02 mr_lou Maybe, but the PDF doesn't contain the 5 hours of audio and 9 hours of video. :-/
18:02 pdurbin :-/
18:03 mr_lou ePub3 supposedly should be able to though - but who'd be interested in a 23 gb ePub? ;-)
18:04 pdurbin maybe in 5 years
18:05 mr_lou :-)
18:06 mr_lou I like the Blu-ray version. It's like a small library for myself. All my old music, and videos of old games. Nice and handy.
18:06 mr_lou Very nostalgic
18:06 mr_lou I'll probably be happy I made it when I get old.
18:06 mr_lou ....older.
18:06 pdurbin heh
18:06 pdurbin What about an online version? Streaming or whatever.
18:07 mr_lou There is one.
18:07 mr_lou HTTP source and WebDAV source. Can be played with Kodi v18.
18:07 pdurbin cool
18:07 mr_lou Yea, Kodi v18 can play a Blu-ray folder structure remotely.
18:08 pdurbin haven't heard of it but cool
18:08 mr_lou VLC can too in theory, but they didn't think about it, so it times out. But you can mount a HTTP source in both Linux and Windows, and then just tell VLC to play the mounted drive. Except it times out.
18:09 mr_lou Because obviously it's slower.
18:09 pdurbin ah "formerly XBMC"
18:09 mr_lou Yes
18:10 pdurbin I'm still mostly a DVD guy. I can just about anything from interlibrary loan.
18:11 mr_lou I'm curious about how to program a DVD.
18:11 mr_lou But that's just yet another one of million things I'd like to learn, but never will learn, because I don't have the time.
18:12 mr_lou I prefer Blu-ray for the resolution and being able to code Java apps for it.
18:13 mr_lou I store personal family videoalbums on Blu-ray. Long lasting that way, and lets me keep FullHD resolution. It becomes a "playable backup" that way.
18:13 pdurbin I don't have a Blu-ray reader or burner.
18:15 mr_lou I don't understand why people don't have a Blu-ray player these days. It's 15 years old. But I've also experienced people saying they didn't have one, but they did. They just didn't know. They still called it a DVD player.
18:15 pdurbin I bought an external Superdrive so I could play DVDs on my iMac. I don't think Apple sells Blu-ray players.
18:17 mr_lou http://www.techguide.com.au/reviews/bddvd-reviews/how-to-watch-blu-ray-movies-on-your-mac/
18:19 mr_lou You don't actually need a physical Blu-ray drive to play 8-bit Memoirs though. You just need a software Blu-ray player. Then you can just download the ISO from 8bitMemoirs.com
18:19 mr_lou I don't know how good the software Blu-ray players are for Mac though.
18:20 mr_lou VLC and Kodi works for Linux and Windows, but they're not the best. PowerDVD is the best for Windows. Supports all features of 8-bit Memoirs, including mouse support.
19:07 pdurbin I don't know. I appreciate the advice but watching Blu-ray on Mac feels like it's going against the grain.
21:53 aditsu I never tried to open an epub on Android before, tried it now and it asks me what to open it with, the last option is "Upload to Play Books" but I don't want to do that
21:53 aditsu it seems to work in "Perfect Viewer"
21:54 aditsu but it doesn't seem to let me zoom
21:55 aditsu and in Ghost Commander it opens it as an archive (META-INF and stuff)
21:57 aditsu side note: I have a kindle, and I usually put pdfs on it :p
21:59 aditsu actually got a book from Amazon, which was somehow not compatible with my kindle; I converted it to pdf and copied it by hand, works fine :p
22:01 aditsu hmmm I have okular built without epub support, let me change that
22:09 pdurbin Ah, glad it works on your Android phone aditsu. Not sure why it doesn't work on mine. I even bought it from Google (Moto x4).
22:10 aditsu pdurbin: what app does it open it with?
22:11 aditsu huh, okular (on the computer) is really bad at epub..
22:12 pdurbin aditsu: well, that's the thing, it won't open at all. And with this phone from Google I'm always on the latest version of Android so you'd think it would work.
22:13 aditsu you said you "see META-INF and other stuff", what app do you see those in?
22:14 pdurbin the "Files" app
22:14 aditsu ok, so it opens it in Files then
22:15 aditsu I don't see to have an app called "Files"
22:15 aditsu seem*
22:15 pdurbin yeah, so the download was probably fine. I couldn't see an easy way to check the md5 but I assume a match.
22:15 pdurbin what version of Android are you on?
22:15 aditsu 6
22:16 pdurbin I'm on 8.1.0.
22:16 aditsu can you long-press on the epub and open with something else?
22:18 pdurbin when I tap "open with" it says "no apps can perform this action"
22:18 aditsu huh, and you have "Play Books"?
22:18 aditsu on the phone
22:21 pdurbin yeah, for a lot of epubs (but not all), I just tap on the epub and it opens in Play Books and I wait a bit for it to import and then I can read it
22:25 aditsu I don't know then..
22:26 pdurbin ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
22:26 aditsu tried redownloading?
22:26 pdurbin yeah
22:29 pdurbin aditsu: how into JPA are you? I just watched "Mastering JPA Performance" at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkQhFs2em2k&feature=youtu.be&t=10774
22:30 aditsu I tried it once, seemed cool, then I ran into some problems and realized it's a nonsensical mess, and gave up on it :p
22:31 aditsu it was probably around the time I started developing depeche
22:31 aditsu btw, I'm considering a major API redesign for depeche
22:33 pdurbin here's the code: https://github.com/tvdtb/MasteringJPAPerformance
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