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aditsu |
oh jeez, java 11 also removed the activation framework |
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pdurbin |
what does it do? |
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aditsu |
well.. I don't have a clear answer, but it's used by javamail |
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pdurbin |
oh |
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aditsu |
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/51794800/noclassdeffounderror-cant-send-email |
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aditsu |
I guess I need a separate jar now for the activation thing |
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aditsu |
[daily reminder that I hate maven] |
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aditsu |
so much for "write once, run anywhere"... |
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mr_lou |
eh... |
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mr_lou |
Didn't the "truth" in that die like decades ago? |
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mr_lou |
Well, movie time. |
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mr_lou |
Later |
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aditsu |
um.. not to any significant extent, until now |
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mr_lou |
aditsu, What has happened now? |
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aditsu |
mr_lou: java 11 has happened, which removed a whole bunch of things from the standard library |
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mr_lou |
Yea, I noticed that long time ago. |
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mr_lou |
Sad |
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aditsu |
really? it was just released a couple of months ago |
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mr_lou |
Hm... maybe I'm thinking about Java 9. Some new Java version anyway that prevented me from coding BD-J. |
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aditsu |
I ignored java 9 and 10 since they were practically beta versions; also, I think they didn't fully remove things until java 11 |
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mr_lou |
I'm gonna stick with Java 8 for as long as possible. |
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mr_lou |
I need BD-J dev options. |
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mr_lou |
I need to be able to dev for 1.3 |
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aditsu |
I don't think "write once, run anywhere" applies to your case, as 1) you're coding for a specific platform and 2) you're having potential problems with the "write" part, not with the "run" part |
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mr_lou |
Well..... mkay. But I'm coding for Blu-ray - which runs "anywhere" - and Java 11 prevents me to "code once". ;-) |
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pdurbin |
mr_lou: red hat is going to keep patching Java 8 for a while |
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pdurbin |
https://developers.redhat.com/blog/2018/09/24/the-future-of-java-and-openjdk-updates-without-oracle-support/ |
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pdurbin |
so you should be fine staying on Java 8 for a while |
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aditsu |
I would imagine that Sony has a vested interest in keeping blu-ray development alive |
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pdurbin |
yeah |
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mr_lou |
aditsu, Yea, but I bet it's via other tools. I.e. Java 11 tools that just produce the bytecode in some other way. |
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mr_lou |
Oldschool coding is considered unreliable I think. |
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aditsu |
can't you still achieve the same results? |
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mr_lou |
Dunno. I don't know these tools. They are crazy expensive. |
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mr_lou |
I prefer coding. |
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aditsu |
oh, I thought it was something free |
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aditsu |
mr_lou: I wonder if this can help: http://retrotranslator.sourceforge.net/ |
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aditsu |
code for java 5, translate the bytecode for 1.3 |
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mr_lou |
I think I've stumbled across that earlier. Not sure how well it works. |
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mr_lou |
Bedtime, g'nite |
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