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07:31 Asdf_ mr_lou: Hey mr_lou, I think you answered my question yesterday regarding the recommended guide to learning java. I couldn't respond then so it'll be nice if we can continue that conversation now.
07:35 aditsu Asdf_: hi, in general I would recommend starting from here: https://docs.oracle.com/javase/tutorial/
07:36 Asdf_ aditsu: Hey, just a bit of context. I'm learning java for android programming. I'm not sure whether that changes things with regard to which version I should be learning.
07:41 aditsu the first 4 links on that page still apply (at least)
07:41 mr_lou Asdf_, Android isn't Java in my opinion. It's "Android Java". You might want to join #android-dev instead.
07:42 aditsu that's also true, but the core is basically the same
07:43 aditsu anyway, I don't have much experience with android development
08:38 Asdf_ mr_lou: So I guess it's better if I take some advice from #android-dev then?
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10:39 aditsu_ is Eclipse taking over Java EE?!
10:41 aditsu_ pdurbin: ^
10:48 aditsu_ https://adtmag.com/articles/2017/09/12/java-ee-moving-to-eclipse.aspx
11:37 mr_lou joined ##friendlyjava
11:54 pdurbin aditsu: yes but the latest news is that the Java EE spec docs are not being transferred: http://www.javaoffheap.com/2018/07/episode-35-bug-in-java-9-and-10-oh-noes.html
12:19 aditsu_ oh, you and your podcasts ><
12:20 mr_lou Microsoft took over GitHub?....
12:24 aditsu_ yes they did, you missed that?
12:25 mr_lou I don't read news.
12:25 mr_lou Or watch news.
12:25 mr_lou Or listen to news.
12:25 mr_lou I know nothing.
12:25 mr_lou I find I'm happier that way.
12:26 mr_lou If someone ever makes a www.OnlyPositiveHappyNews.com - then I'll visit.
12:27 aditsu_ https://redd.it/8oc8d4
12:28 aditsu_ mr_lou: so, do you know who's the current US president? :p
12:32 aditsu_ I'm actually a bit surprised that microsoft hasn't plastered its name, logos and links all over the github home page
12:33 aditsu_ and hasn't (yet) made it look corporate-y and clunky
12:35 mr_lou Well I've never used GitHub, and now I know I never will.
12:35 mr_lou I can't stand Microsoft. They ruin everything they touch.
12:35 aditsu_ good for you :)
12:37 aditsu_ many people are arguing that microsoft has changed a lot in recent (maybe 10) years and it's not anymore the borg it used to be, but I'd still rather avoid it as much as I can :p
12:37 * mr_lou will stick to Blu-ray coding on Linux. :->
12:38 mr_lou Btw... I found the only other person in the world who's also interested in BD-J coding. So now I'm helping him get started in ##j2me. :->
12:40 aditsu_ there's gotta be a couple more, but maybe they don't do irc :)
12:40 mr_lou Maybe. :-)
12:43 pdurbin I keep hearing good things about Visual Studio Code. And it's open source.
12:46 * mr_lou goes out with the family. :-)
12:46 mr_lou See ya
12:46 mr_lou o/
13:32 aditsu_ pdurbin: does it run in Linux?
13:48 pdurbin that's what I hear
14:21 aditsu_ it doesn't seem to be in portage (main Gentoo repo)
14:25 pdurbin .deb and .rpm at https://code.visualstudio.com/download
14:25 aditsu_ bleh
14:28 pdurbin patches welcome
14:29 aditsu_ where
14:29 aditsu_ where's the sauce
14:30 aditsu_ ah, https://github.com/Microsoft/vscode I guess
14:37 pdurbin wow, "5000+" issues... I don't think I've ever seen that
14:37 pdurbin "5,109 Open"
14:37 pdurbin Now I don't feel so bad about our 800 open issues.
14:44 aditsu_ pdurbin: some Gentoo bug stats: https://is.gd/e4qmJW
14:45 pdurbin 32,780 unresolved bugs. interesting
14:46 pdurbin Do they do a good job of closing old bugs that no one cares about?
14:47 aditsu_ I think the verified ones are also resolved
14:48 aditsu_ 22053 unresolved
14:48 aditsu_ gotta go
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