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07:28 |
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Asdf_ |
mr_lou: Hey mr_lou, I think you answered my question yesterday regarding the recommended guide to learning java. I couldn't respond then so it'll be nice if we can continue that conversation now. |
07:35 |
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aditsu |
Asdf_: hi, in general I would recommend starting from here: https://docs.oracle.com/javase/tutorial/ |
07:36 |
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Asdf_ |
aditsu: Hey, just a bit of context. I'm learning java for android programming. I'm not sure whether that changes things with regard to which version I should be learning. |
07:41 |
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aditsu |
the first 4 links on that page still apply (at least) |
07:41 |
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mr_lou |
Asdf_, Android isn't Java in my opinion. It's "Android Java". You might want to join #android-dev instead. |
07:42 |
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aditsu |
that's also true, but the core is basically the same |
07:43 |
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aditsu |
anyway, I don't have much experience with android development |
08:38 |
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Asdf_ |
mr_lou: So I guess it's better if I take some advice from #android-dev then? |
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10:39 |
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aditsu_ |
is Eclipse taking over Java EE?! |
10:41 |
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aditsu_ |
pdurbin: ^ |
10:48 |
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aditsu_ |
https://adtmag.com/articles/2017/09/12/java-ee-moving-to-eclipse.aspx |
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pdurbin |
aditsu: yes but the latest news is that the Java EE spec docs are not being transferred: http://www.javaoffheap.com/2018/07/episode-35-bug-in-java-9-and-10-oh-noes.html |
12:19 |
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aditsu_ |
oh, you and your podcasts >< |
12:20 |
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mr_lou |
Microsoft took over GitHub?.... |
12:24 |
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aditsu_ |
yes they did, you missed that? |
12:25 |
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mr_lou |
I don't read news. |
12:25 |
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mr_lou |
Or watch news. |
12:25 |
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mr_lou |
Or listen to news. |
12:25 |
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mr_lou |
I know nothing. |
12:25 |
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mr_lou |
I find I'm happier that way. |
12:26 |
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mr_lou |
If someone ever makes a www.OnlyPositiveHappyNews.com - then I'll visit. |
12:27 |
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aditsu_ |
https://redd.it/8oc8d4 |
12:28 |
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aditsu_ |
mr_lou: so, do you know who's the current US president? :p |
12:32 |
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aditsu_ |
I'm actually a bit surprised that microsoft hasn't plastered its name, logos and links all over the github home page |
12:33 |
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aditsu_ |
and hasn't (yet) made it look corporate-y and clunky |
12:35 |
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mr_lou |
Well I've never used GitHub, and now I know I never will. |
12:35 |
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mr_lou |
I can't stand Microsoft. They ruin everything they touch. |
12:35 |
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aditsu_ |
good for you :) |
12:37 |
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aditsu_ |
many people are arguing that microsoft has changed a lot in recent (maybe 10) years and it's not anymore the borg it used to be, but I'd still rather avoid it as much as I can :p |
12:37 |
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* mr_lou |
will stick to Blu-ray coding on Linux. :-> |
12:38 |
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mr_lou |
Btw... I found the only other person in the world who's also interested in BD-J coding. So now I'm helping him get started in ##j2me. :-> |
12:40 |
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aditsu_ |
there's gotta be a couple more, but maybe they don't do irc :) |
12:40 |
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mr_lou |
Maybe. :-) |
12:43 |
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pdurbin |
I keep hearing good things about Visual Studio Code. And it's open source. |
12:46 |
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* mr_lou |
goes out with the family. :-) |
12:46 |
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mr_lou |
See ya |
12:46 |
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mr_lou |
o/ |
13:32 |
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aditsu_ |
pdurbin: does it run in Linux? |
13:48 |
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pdurbin |
that's what I hear |
14:21 |
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aditsu_ |
it doesn't seem to be in portage (main Gentoo repo) |
14:25 |
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pdurbin |
.deb and .rpm at https://code.visualstudio.com/download |
14:25 |
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aditsu_ |
bleh |
14:28 |
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pdurbin |
patches welcome |
14:29 |
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aditsu_ |
where |
14:29 |
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aditsu_ |
where's the sauce |
14:30 |
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aditsu_ |
ah, https://github.com/Microsoft/vscode I guess |
14:37 |
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pdurbin |
wow, "5000+" issues... I don't think I've ever seen that |
14:37 |
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pdurbin |
"5,109 Open" |
14:37 |
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pdurbin |
Now I don't feel so bad about our 800 open issues. |
14:44 |
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aditsu_ |
pdurbin: some Gentoo bug stats: https://is.gd/e4qmJW |
14:45 |
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pdurbin |
32,780 unresolved bugs. interesting |
14:46 |
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pdurbin |
Do they do a good job of closing old bugs that no one cares about? |
14:47 |
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aditsu_ |
I think the verified ones are also resolved |
14:48 |
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aditsu_ |
22053 unresolved |
14:48 |
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aditsu_ |
gotta go |
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