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IRC log for #friendlyjava, 2018-07-02

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13:20 aditsu sigh... nowadays everybody's publishing stuff to maven instead of providing binary downloads :(
13:22 pdurbin Maven hosts binaries.
13:22 aditsu yeah but I don't like it
13:22 pdurbin Why not?
13:25 aditsu first, I don't like maven as a build system, it's quite invasive and those pom files are horrible
13:26 aditsu I also don't like how it categorizes and organizes libraries
13:27 pdurbin Do you like Gradle better?
13:28 aditsu I haven't really tried it, but at a first glance, it seems decent
13:28 aditsu I'm still using ant and ivy
13:29 pdurbin ok
13:29 pdurbin Which language has the best build system?
13:29 aditsu I don't know many build systems..
13:30 pdurbin Every language has to reinvent this wheel. :)
13:30 aditsu they don't *have to*, but I guess they do it anyway :p
13:34 aditsu I think I like the idea of build scripts written in the same language as the project you're building
13:34 aditsu note: scripts rather than systems
13:39 aditsu one more thing about publishing to maven: I'm expecting to download binaries from the site that hosts the project; the least they could do is to provide links to the jars in maven
13:39 aditsu instead, many just provide the dependency tags
13:44 pdurbin You're an Ivy man living in a Maven world. :)
13:45 aditsu I suppose one mitigating factor is that ivy can fetch dependencies from maven.. when not using a custom repository like I do
16:41 mr_lou New little tune: http://www.indiegamemusic.com/viewtrack.php?id=3396
16:46 aditsu cute
16:47 aditsu I noticed somewhat recently that you made that site :p
17:02 mr_lou Yes
17:02 mr_lou Many moons ago now.
17:09 aditsu I mean I knew about the site for some time (from you), but only recently noticed that you actually made it
17:28 mr_lou :-)
17:30 * mr_lou tries to find a date of when it was made....
17:31 mr_lou Well what do you know....  it went online march 2008....  so it's 10 years ago already...

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