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aditsu |
damn, java's sort implementations are scary |
| 13:10 |
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pdurbin |
I guess I do most of my sorting in the database. |
| 13:12 |
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aditsu |
I'm studying and implementing some algorithms |
| 13:13 |
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pdurbin |
I'm listening to Sad Robot by Pornophonique: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7Dg3LrhmIY |
| 13:15 |
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aditsu |
strange :p |
| 13:19 |
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pdurbin |
aditsu: did you say you're in Hong Kong? |
| 13:19 |
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aditsu |
yeah |
| 13:19 |
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pdurbin |
I'm sort of heading to your part of the world in a week. Indonesia. |
| 13:21 |
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aditsu |
that's still far.. what are you doing there? |
| 13:22 |
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pdurbin |
I'm giving a talk: http://lipi.go.id/pengumuman/Workshop-on-Management-of-Research-Data-to-Improve-Research-Quality/20266 |
| 13:23 |
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aditsu |
cool |
| 13:23 |
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pdurbin |
I'm not sure how much I'll be talking about Java but our app is written in Java. |
| 13:25 |
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nanozz |
i'm breaking my head on java security |
| 13:25 |
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nanozz |
package |
| 13:27 |
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nanozz |
is this live talk |
| 13:28 |
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pdurbin |
live talk? :) |
| 13:28 |
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nanozz |
via online |
| 13:30 |
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nanozz |
your Project Manager? pdurbin ??! |
| 13:31 |
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nanozz |
i thought you guys were Architect |
| 13:32 |
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pdurbin |
I'm not. It's a mistake. I'm not an architect either. I'm just a code monkey. |
| 13:32 |
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pdurbin |
Hopefully a corrected version will be up soon. I let them know. |
| 13:33 |
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nanozz |
is there any open source project you work on? |
| 13:34 |
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aditsu |
dataverse is open source, isn't it? |
| 13:35 |
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pdurbin |
yep, pull requests welcome! https://github.com/IQSS/dataverse |
| 13:35 |
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nanozz |
do be clear dataverse is a framework |
| 13:35 |
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nanozz |
for data analysis |
| 13:35 |
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nanozz |
similar like R |
| 13:37 |
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nanozz |
there are 824 issues |
| 13:49 |
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pdurbin |
nanozz: data *hosting* is more of a focus but "external tools" can be added for analysis |
| 13:55 |
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pdurbin |
Is 824 open issues too many? |
| 14:00 |
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aditsu |
depends on the size of the project |
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pdurbin |
Do you mean lines of code? |
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pdurbin |
Or some other measure of size? Number of users? |
| 14:15 |
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nanozz |
too many open issues |
| 14:15 |
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nanozz |
its takes too long to fix it. |
| 14:16 |
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aditsu |
lines of code can be a metric, yes; I'm mainly thinking about complexity and number of features |
| 14:16 |
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aditsu |
although the number of users also has an effect, I guess |
| 14:18 |
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pdurbin |
Features are easy enough to count, I guess. I'm not sure how you'd measure complexity. |
| 14:20 |
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pdurbin |
nanozz: too long to fix all the issues, you mean? Any one issue may not take too long to fix. It depends on the issue. We do some backlog grooming every other week and try to estimate them as 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, etc. |
| 14:24 |
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aditsu |
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyclomatic_complexity |
| 14:40 |
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pdurbin |
I talked about conditional complexity at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6udg_seKrY but it wasn't my term. It's my understanding that cyclomatic complexity is the same or similar. |
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nanozz |
i'm following pdurbin but i never actually noticed it |
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rubbercable_m3 |
is it theoretically possible to rotate jks/jceks without restarting the java or tomcat app? |
| 22:54 |
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aditsu |
rubbercable_m3: if it's for https, I recommend doing it in nginx or some other web server instead (reverse proxy) |
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rubbercable_m3 |
hmm. |
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* pdurbin |
agrees with aditsu |
| 22:56 |
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aditsu |
I can renew a certificate and restart nginx without affecting the java web server |
| 22:57 |
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rubbercable_m3 |
yeah - i wonder if an app can support two keys simultaneously - so it won't kill the current sessions (allow it to expire/drain) |
| 22:58 |
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aditsu |
if you don't restart the java server (or if it persists sessions to disk), they will be preserved |
| 22:59 |
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rubbercable_m3 |
i've not read up much on keymanagemeent services. do they work with that i wonder |
| 22:59 |
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rubbercable_m3 |
or do they do a complete different thing |
| 23:00 |
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aditsu |
no idea |
| 23:00 |
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rubbercable_m3 |
youtubing :) |
| 23:17 |
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rubbercable_m3 |
no i don't think it's possible the way the devs want it. |
| 23:17 |
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rubbercable_m3 |
they want to issue new session-keys (tls?) with a 6hr expiry |
| 23:48 |
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aditsu |
rubbercable_m3: I think session keys are generated automatically (and randomly) within TLS, it don't think they're something you would put in a keystore or manage explicitly in an application |
| 23:50 |
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aditsu |
they're used for encrypting the actual communication with minimal overhead, after negotiation the initial connection (where the stored keys/certificates are involved) |
