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| 01:22 |
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pdurbin |
The other day I was talking about Java 9 in here and I wrote up some more thoughts on how I don't think we should force our users to upgrade to a non-LTS release like Java 9: https://github.com/IQSS/dataverse/issues/4259 |
| 01:31 |
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aditsu |
pdurbin: but what are the reasons *for* switching to java 9? |
| 01:32 |
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aditsu |
so far I only know it has improved http/2 support |
| 01:32 |
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pdurbin |
aditsu: well, "end of public updates" for Java 8 is Sep 2018. That means security patches. This is from http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/eol-135779.html |
| 01:35 |
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aditsu |
that means you don't need to worry about it until then :) |
| 01:35 |
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aditsu |
also, users can upgrade to java 9 and still run a project made for java 8 |
| 01:36 |
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pdurbin |
I'm more talking about forcing users to run Java 9. Making our app only run on Java 9. |
| 01:36 |
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aditsu |
yes, and I'm asking why you would even consider doing that |
| 01:38 |
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pdurbin |
Well, that's what we did when we moved from Java 7 to Java 8. We changed our Maven "target" to 1.8. |
| 01:55 |
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pdurbin |
It was the right thing to do because Java 7 wasn't going to keep getting security patches. |
| 01:58 |
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aditsu |
so far, still no reason; "what we did when we moved from Java 7 to Java 8" is completely irrelevant, and availability of java security patches is a reason for users to upgrade, but not a reason for you to switch and force users to upgrade |
| 01:58 |
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aditsu |
and even if it was a reason, it wouldn't apply until late 2018 |
| 02:01 |
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aditsu |
switching to java 8 can be justified by the benefits you get from the new language features |
| 02:04 |
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pdurbin |
I guess you're saying we could keep our app compatible with Java 6 or some other older release that doeson't get security patches and let our users decide when to upgrade to a version of Java that gets security patches. |
| 02:04 |
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aditsu |
sure, unless you have actual reasons to switch to a newer version (as I just gave an example) |
| 02:08 |
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pdurbin |
Well, Java 8 had a lot of shiny new features. :) |
| 02:08 |
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aditsu |
yes, and I agree, but I was asking about java 9 |
| 02:12 |
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pdurbin |
I'm not especially interested in any of the features in Java 9. |
| 02:16 |
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aditsu |
yeah, so then there's no need to upgrade |
| 02:29 |
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pdurbin |
yeah |
| 05:15 |
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mr_lou |
Since Java 9 prevents me from compiling Blu-ray Xlets, I'm hoping to be able to keep on using Java 8 forever. |
| 05:15 |
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mr_lou |
I mean JDK 8 |
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