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tahr240591 |
butts |
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nanoz |
vello aditsu pdurbin pulsar mr_lou |
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mr_lou |
Hello nanoz |
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pdurbin |
o/ |
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nanoz |
whats up pdurbin ? |
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nanoz |
what project your working on ? |
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pdurbin |
nanozz: https://github.com/IQSS/dataverse |
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nanozz |
awesome ! |
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nanozz |
how to commit frequently on github? |
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nanozz |
i have done only 2 commits past 2 months |
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pdurbin |
nanozz: do you want to work on a "low hanging fruit" issue? |
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nanozz |
yes |
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nanozz |
kindly let me know on that |
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nanozz |
pdurbin |
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aditsu |
hai |
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mr_lou |
Hey aditsu |
| 17:36 |
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aditsu |
mr_lou: how's it going? |
| 17:47 |
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mr_lou |
Still stuck in bed with the flu sadly. |
| 17:48 |
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mr_lou |
I must have broken some kind of record in boredom at this point. |
| 17:48 |
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mr_lou |
There's nothing interesting on Netflix. |
| 17:52 |
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aditsu |
aww |
| 17:55 |
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aditsu |
hope you get well soon; as for Netflix, I find that kinda hard to conceive |
| 17:59 |
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mr_lou |
I guess I'm just too picky then. |
| 18:00 |
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mr_lou |
And how are you doing? |
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CatButts |
meow |
| 18:08 |
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aditsu |
tired, I did a bunch of work today.. |
| 18:08 |
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aditsu |
I think I hate react js |
| 18:09 |
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aditsu |
fortunately I never used it :p |
| 18:09 |
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mr_lou |
I hate frameworks in general. There are too many of them. |
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aditsu |
some frameworks are ok, but others are just ridiculous overkill |
| 18:11 |
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aditsu |
CatButts: purr |
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CatButts |
murr |
| 18:13 |
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aditsu |
anyway, just chilling now, btw that Peter Pan thing is really funny; would probably be even funnier if I was familiar with the original :p |
| 18:16 |
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mr_lou |
:-) |
| 18:18 |
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nanoz |
hi mr_lou |
| 18:18 |
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aditsu |
I have a java question.. is there a library that can parse a fragment of a big json thing? (for speed and low memory) |
| 18:18 |
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nanoz |
why hate reactjs? aditsu |
| 18:20 |
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aditsu |
nanoz: it makes everything super-complicated, and pushes most of the page generation stuff into the browser, with mountains of js and json and whatnot |
| 18:21 |
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nanoz |
you look in vuejs :) aditsu |
| 18:21 |
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nanoz |
i like reactjs since its so simple |
| 18:21 |
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aditsu |
what happened to simply sending html from the server? is that old-fashioned now? |
| 18:21 |
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nanoz |
the only thing i hate is state maintaince |
| 18:21 |
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nanoz |
where redux comes in |
| 18:22 |
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nanoz |
yes old fashioned |
| 18:22 |
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nanoz |
bye to jsp jsf |
| 18:22 |
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nanoz |
and bye to who uses it :P pdurbin |
| 18:23 |
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aditsu |
well, screw that |
| 18:24 |
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nanoz |
hahahahahaha :D |
| 18:26 |
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aditsu |
it's not worth making an application 1000 times more complicated, slower, more memory- and network-intensive, just to gain a couple of brownie points |
| 18:26 |
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CatButts |
just write in C |
| 18:26 |
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nanoz |
^ |
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nanoz |
aditsu |
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aditsu |
C is kinda complicated though |
| 18:27 |
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CatButts |
it's more complicated and more simple at the same time |
| 18:27 |
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aditsu |
and tedious |
| 18:27 |
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CatButts |
it comes closer to the way the machine works than OOP |
| 18:28 |
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CatButts |
you call C tedious |
| 18:28 |
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CatButts |
I'll continue calling |
| 18:28 |
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CatButts |
return new File(MyClass.class.getProtectionDomain().getCodeSource().getLocation().toURI().getPath()); |
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CatButts |
tedious |
| 18:28 |
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CatButts |
:p |
| 18:29 |
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mr_lou |
I've always wanted to try doing a website with Java. Never had a chance yet. |
| 18:29 |
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* CatButts |
throws in some exception handling |
| 18:29 |
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nanoz |
mr_lou java sucks |
| 18:29 |
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mr_lou |
I like it. |
| 18:29 |
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nanoz |
it sucks |
| 18:29 |
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mr_lou |
Some complain that you have to write a lot in Java. That's part of what I like. |
| 18:29 |
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mr_lou |
Why nanoz? |
| 18:29 |
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nanoz |
its verbose |
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aditsu |
probably 99% of the sites I made in the last 10 years were in java :p |
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mr_lou |
Awesome aditsu |
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CatButts |
that's what I'd call "overtly ver.... what nanoz says |
| 18:30 |
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mr_lou |
I like the readability. |
| 18:30 |
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nanoz |
functional interfaces made me to leave java for good |
| 18:31 |
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mr_lou |
Ah, so you leave a language because it offers something you don't have to use. Ok then. |
| 18:31 |
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nanoz |
its crap way of doing something simple and elegant |
| 18:31 |
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mr_lou |
Well I disagree. |
| 18:32 |
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CatButts |
I'm here because there is stuff relevant to my interests in Java |
| 18:32 |
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CatButts |
and I have some work to do |
| 18:32 |
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nanoz |
i'm here bcuz the world is not allowing me to change the carreer |
| 18:36 |
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mr_lou |
:-) |
| 18:36 |
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mr_lou |
I had a "debate" with an anti-java dude earlier. |
| 18:36 |
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mr_lou |
"I hate Java". |
| 18:36 |
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mr_lou |
Why? |
| 18:36 |
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mr_lou |
"Because it's slow and bloated". |
| 18:37 |
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mr_lou |
I'm pretty sure a Java app on a Windows machine runs just as fast as a C# app on a Linux machine... |
| 18:37 |
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mr_lou |
"....yea.... to be honest I picked C# because I wanna be able to target the consoles". |
| 18:37 |
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mr_lou |
I just created 8-bit Memoirs with Java, and it runs on both PlayStation 3, PlayStation 4 and Xbox One. |
| 18:38 |
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nanoz |
i hated the many of there design flaws |
| 18:38 |
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mr_lou |
Also created Ukko's Journey the same way. One disc runs on all. |
| 18:38 |
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mr_lou |
Then he left the channel. |
| 18:38 |
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mr_lou |
There are flaws in anything. |
| 18:38 |
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mr_lou |
Everything. |
| 18:38 |
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mr_lou |
Everywhere. |
| 18:38 |
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nanoz |
you know what ? |
| 18:38 |
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mr_lou |
I'm sure you're about to tell me. |
| 18:39 |
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nanoz |
java sucks beyond and they want patch via 8,9 |
| 18:39 |
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mr_lou |
It kinda seems like you're just repeating yourself. |
| 18:40 |
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nanoz |
okay |
| 18:40 |
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mr_lou |
But if that's how you feel, then just leave. |
| 18:40 |
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mr_lou |
See ya! |
| 18:40 |
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nanoz |
see ya |
| 18:40 |
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mr_lou |
:) |
| 18:40 |
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nanoz |
:) |
| 18:40 |
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nanoz |
hi guys |
| 18:41 |
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aditsu |
so about the C discussion, I wasn't talking about optimizing like making string concatenation run 3 times faster, but rather doing stuff like string concatenation instead of constructing, transporting and deploying a very complex page-generating engine and a mountain of json and making 20 ajax requests and processing more json, to achieve the exact same goal |
| 18:41 |
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nanoz |
i met some guy called mr_lou , he is fanatic about java :D |
| 18:41 |
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mr_lou |
Btw aditsu.... have no idea why I suddenly remembers this, but... could I have OP status? :-> I wann be able to invite poeple here. Apparently it requires OP status. |
| 18:41 |
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nanoz |
you may mis-use it |
| 18:42 |
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mr_lou |
Probably. |
| 18:42 |
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aditsu |
mr_lou: you could just tell them, come to ##... |
| 18:42 |
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nanoz |
if mr_lou gets OP so do i |
| 18:42 |
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mr_lou |
aditsu, That's what I did. |
| 18:43 |
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mr_lou |
But an invite would be cooler. |
| 18:43 |
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nanoz |
lol mr_lou |
| 18:43 |
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mr_lou |
When noticing people being bashed in a certain other channel. |
| 18:43 |
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mr_lou |
Probably by nanoz |
| 18:43 |
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mr_lou |
Sounds like something he's do. |
| 18:43 |
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mr_lou |
He's evil. |
| 18:43 |
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nanoz |
lol you know evil , your corrupted b! |
| 18:43 |
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aditsu |
meh, I'm not sure op status is warranted just for cooler invites |
| 18:44 |
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mr_lou |
How about my cool personality then? |
| 18:44 |
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mr_lou |
No you're right. |
| 18:44 |
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mr_lou |
I would abuse my powers. |
| 18:44 |
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nanoz |
its like saying girls to get naked in public so i dont want to see nsfw during office hours :P coool! |
| 18:44 |
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mr_lou |
CatButts would be a better choice. |
| 18:46 |
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aditsu |
I think the first person I'd op is pdurbin, but probably only if kicking people becomes necessary |
| 18:46 |
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mr_lou |
Can we vote on the kick issue? :-> |
| 18:47 |
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nanoz |
i dont find reason making anyone op other than aditsu pdurbin |
| 18:47 |
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aditsu |
you want to vote to kick people? that sounds weird |
| 18:47 |
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mr_lou |
Anyway.... change of topic. |
| 18:47 |
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CatButts |
what'd I miss? |
| 18:47 |
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nanoz |
miss mr_lou what next ? |
| 18:48 |
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mr_lou |
aditsu, I have a small question about JavaEE. There are Servletts on these Java servers. My question is: Does a server create a Servlett instance for each visitor, or will there always be only one Servlett running? |
| 18:49 |
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aditsu |
mr_lou: there's only one t in servlet, and from what I remember, there's one instance of each servlet |
| 18:49 |
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aditsu |
I seldom use servlets directly though |
| 18:49 |
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mr_lou |
Really? Servlets are what I find cool about JavaEE. |
| 18:49 |
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nanoz |
i never used servlet but my framework did use while back! |
| 18:50 |
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aditsu |
mr_lou: I use them occasionally, for simple stuff |
| 18:50 |
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mr_lou |
mkay |
| 18:50 |
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mr_lou |
Well..... I'll never have time to look into that world anyway. :-/ |
| 18:50 |
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mr_lou |
Life is too short. |
| 18:50 |
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nanoz |
have an affair mr_lou |
| 18:51 |
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mr_lou |
Yes, that'll surely give me more time. |
| 18:51 |
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mr_lou |
You're very wise non |
| 18:51 |
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CatButts |
put cat on chest |
| 18:51 |
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mr_lou |
Na na na na na na na na BATMAN!!! |
| 18:52 |
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CatButts |
get cat to fart on chest and whisper that everythign is going to be ok |
| 18:52 |
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mr_lou |
And CatButts |
| 18:52 |
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CatButts |
fart away the blood clots |
| 18:52 |
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CatButts |
:P |
| 18:52 |
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mr_lou |
Any chance your butt is that of Cat Woman? |
| 18:52 |
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mr_lou |
Because that would totally chance my view on you. |
| 18:52 |
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mr_lou |
:-) |
| 18:53 |
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CatButts |
http://cat.butt.care:3434/priv/catbutt.png |
| 18:54 |
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CatButts |
http://cat.butt.care:3434/priv/meow_in_3d.PNG |
| 18:55 |
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CatButts |
who's Halle Berry? |
| 18:56 |
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aditsu |
use the google |
| 18:57 |
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* CatButts |
uses google rhetoricallt |
| 18:57 |
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CatButts |
y |
| 18:57 |
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nanoz |
she has good B! |
| 18:59 |
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CatButts |
I kinda wanna ask java questions, but at the same time I don't because I'd have to get off me bum and brush with Java |
| 18:59 |
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CatButts |
I feel in no state to write code, currently |
| 18:59 |
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aditsu |
I did ask a java question |
| 19:01 |
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CatButts |
I'll go rest on bed, instead |
| 19:01 |
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aditsu |
g'night then, I guess |
| 19:06 |
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CatButts |
I don't even feel like resting on bed |
| 19:07 |
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CatButts |
I'll go ahead then |
| 19:07 |
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CatButts |
I'm shopping for parts, for a simplistic drawing application |
| 19:08 |
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CatButts |
first up, the storage medium where RGBA values get stored |
| 19:08 |
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CatButts |
I am looking at Array |
| 19:08 |
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CatButts |
does not allow resize, though |
| 19:09 |
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CatButts |
for speed(lots of reads and writes), probably the best |
| 19:09 |
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CatButts |
I assume I can get away with allocating a new Array, copying contents accordingly, ditching old one, ok |
| 19:10 |
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CatButts |
what are ways to copy data between arrays or different location of same array? |
| 19:10 |
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CatButts |
is there anything like C's memcpy? |
| 19:10 |
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CatButts |
for large chunks at a time? |
| 19:10 |
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aditsu |
CatButts: System.arraycopy |
| 19:10 |
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CatButts |
as opposed to itterated copy per int32 |
| 19:11 |
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aditsu |
it's up to the jvm how it implements/optimizes it |
| 19:11 |
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CatButts |
ah |
| 19:11 |
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CatButts |
so might or might not bring a boost |
| 19:11 |
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aditsu |
there's also Arrays.copyOf |
| 19:11 |
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aditsu |
but I think it uses arrraycopy |
| 19:13 |
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* CatButts |
notes that down |
| 19:13 |
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CatButts |
right |
| 19:13 |
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CatButts |
next up, by looking at a few screencaps |
| 19:14 |
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CatButts |
of AWT in action |
| 19:14 |
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CatButts |
can you take good guess what goes wrong? |
| 19:14 |
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aditsu |
1. you're using AWT :) |
| 19:14 |
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* CatButts |
fetches screenies |
| 19:15 |
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CatButts |
well then |
| 19:15 |
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aditsu |
mr_lou: hey, are you from Denmark? |
| 19:15 |
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CatButts |
let me test and see if this specific shittyness is consistent accross platforms, aditsu |
| 19:15 |
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mr_lou |
aditsu, Yes. |
| 19:16 |
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aditsu |
huh, I went there in August |
| 19:18 |
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aditsu |
I had no idea.. |
| 19:18 |
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aditsu |
nice place :) |
| 19:19 |
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mr_lou |
Cool. Where were you? |
| 19:19 |
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aditsu |
Copenhagen and Odense |
| 19:20 |
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CatButts |
[21:14] <aditsu> 1. you're using AWT :) |
| 19:20 |
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mr_lou |
Ok. :-) |
| 19:20 |
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CatButts |
well, that's about right |
| 19:20 |
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CatButts |
I don't have the screencaps handy |
| 19:20 |
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CatButts |
but I can tell you the bug |
| 19:21 |
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mr_lou |
aditsu, I live quite a bit away from the capital. :-) |
| 19:21 |
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CatButts |
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/348544204072288257/390584063418826761/image.png |
| 19:22 |
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CatButts |
see the widgets on the left? |
| 19:22 |
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CatButts |
when dragging screen, they leave gunk behind |
| 19:22 |
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CatButts |
likewise, the drawing cursor is likely to leave itself behind |
| 19:23 |
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aditsu |
mr_lou: Jutland? |
| 19:23 |
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aditsu |
CatButts: checking |
| 19:23 |
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mr_lou |
aditsu, Yes |
| 19:23 |
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CatButts |
the mobile JRT(Java 7) does this |
| 19:23 |
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mr_lou |
aditsu, Northern Jutland. |
| 19:23 |
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CatButts |
on PC, less gunk |
| 19:24 |
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mr_lou |
aditsu, Get 8-bit Memoirs to read more about it. ;-) hehe |
| 19:24 |
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CatButts |
with only the flashing around the widgets |
| 19:25 |
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CatButts |
JRE 8 |
| 19:25 |
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aditsu |
CatButts: I'm not sure where's the gunk |
| 19:26 |
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CatButts |
[21:20] <CatButts> I don't have the screencaps handy |
| 19:26 |
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CatButts |
the mobile screencaps |
| 19:26 |
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CatButts |
this is PC |
| 19:27 |
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CatButts |
so I verbally described gunk instead |
| 19:27 |
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aditsu |
ok.. it could be due to a bug in the program |
| 19:27 |
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CatButts |
or maybe crappy of AWT? |
| 19:28 |
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* CatButts |
tries to take some screenies on phone |
| 19:28 |
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aditsu |
but it's hard to tell exactly where the problem is |
| 19:29 |
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aditsu |
could be a race condition, that manifests more on a slower cpu |
| 19:34 |
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CatButts |
I appear to be unable to take screencaps at the moment |
| 19:37 |
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CatButts |
looks like I got a bigger problem on hands :< |
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CatButts |
sorry for wait aditsu, I sorted out some partitioning woes |
| 20:26 |
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aditsu |
it's ok, I wasn't waiting |
| 20:26 |
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CatButts |
http://cat.butt.care:3434/priv/Screenshot-20171213-222212.png |
| 20:26 |
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CatButts |
:p |
| 20:27 |
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CatButts |
I am half tempted to believe this is either due to JRE 7 or the Embedded's implementation |
| 20:27 |
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CatButts |
hmmmm, I have a JDK 7 around |
| 20:27 |
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CatButts |
I should try it in that |
| 20:29 |
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aditsu |
I suspect a bug in the code, as I said |
| 20:30 |
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aditsu |
anyway, just get an android tablet and install a paint app ^__^ |
| 20:30 |
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aditsu |
it will be fine :p |
| 20:32 |
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CatButts |
android sux, lol |
| 20:33 |
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CatButts |
so, if I can rest assured it's not AWT's fault and it's programmer's fault |
| 20:33 |
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CatButts |
then I can get crackin |
| 20:34 |
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aditsu |
I can't be 100% sure, but I think it's a safe assumption |
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kirua |
i want to execute this : https://pastebin.com/gX4uzyFx but i(m afraid its not going to work, i should add ARTIKELNR in the select but if i do so, the insert is not going to work+ |
