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aditsu |
uh.. java 8 functions can only count to 2 >_< |
| 08:52 |
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aditsu |
there's Function and BiFunction, Consumer and BiConsumer, Predicate and BiPredicate etc |
| 08:53 |
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aditsu |
what if I need (*gasp*) THREE arguments? |
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pdurbin |
that's crazy talk |
| 12:29 |
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nanoz |
huh ? |
| 12:29 |
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nanoz |
pdurbin |
| 12:43 |
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pdurbin |
http://irclog.greptilian.com/friendlyjava/2016-05-01 |
| 12:43 |
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pdurbin |
I was responding to something aditsu said. |
| 13:08 |
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nanoz |
k i work on java 5 |
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pdurbin |
nanoz: any plans to upgrade to a newer version? |
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nanoz |
i dont decide |
| 13:25 |
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nanoz |
my manager is okay with java 5 |
| 13:27 |
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nanoz |
if client wants java 5 what can i do :{ |
| 13:28 |
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pdurbin |
find a new client I guess ;) |
| 13:33 |
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nanoz |
nope its a contract for 2 years |
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nanoz |
until i complete the project |
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aditsu |
java 5? wow |
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pulsar |
such enterprise |
| 14:39 |
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aditsu |
released in 2004, end of life in 2008, paid support stopped in 2015 |
| 14:39 |
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pulsar |
i am quite sure there are a couple of huge companies paying big bucks for their special support |
| 14:40 |
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aditsu |
you can't even install java 6 in gentoo anymore (from the main repository) |
| 14:44 |
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aditsu |
public boolean dfs(final Func1<Integer, Boolean> init, final Func3<Integer, Integer, T, Boolean> f, final Func1<Integer, Boolean> done, final Func2<Integer, Func2<Integer, T, Boolean>, Boolean> iter) |
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aditsu |
am I overdoing it? :p |
| 16:01 |
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sfisque |
aditsu why would you install java 6 anyway? as a developer you can down-compile with any modern jdk to target an older jvm |
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aditsu |
sfisque: no particular reason, just saying |
| 16:12 |
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aditsu |
not only java 5 is not available, but even java 6 is not |
| 16:14 |
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sfisque |
actually you "can" download them. you just have to go digging |
| 16:14 |
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sfisque |
you can download all the way back to 1.1 IIRC |
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sfisque |
BUT |
| 16:14 |
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sfisque |
IIRC, supported linux versions did not appear until 1.3. before that you had to use blackdown |
| 16:15 |
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aditsu |
yes, you can get them from oracle, but not from the package repository |
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shrugs |
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pdurbin |
sfisque: it's cool or at least interesting that you can be running Java 8 and actually target something an ancient as Java 5. |
| 17:24 |
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pdurbin |
of course, a lot of libraries may require somewhat modern versions of Java |
| 17:26 |
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sfisque |
aye. iirc, i think they added binary targeting around java 5, in order to get better adoption from the developers (build with 5 regardless of your customers target jvm version) |
| 17:28 |
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pdurbin |
I get the impression that supporting older versions of Python is not commonly done. RHEL 5 shipped with Python 2.4 but most Python developers are running 2.7 or 3.x on their laptops and will insist on a matching version of Python in production. It becomes an ops problem. |
| 17:30 |
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pdurbin |
Of course, keeping Java 5 running well in production these days is probably an ops problem as well. :) |
| 17:49 |
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aditsu |
can you actually have the compiler not only generate the right type of class files, but also fail when you're using classes/methods added in a newer java version? |
| 17:51 |
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pdurbin |
I think so. I think that's what sfisque is talking about. |
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aditsu |
I know eclipse doesn't do that |
| 17:53 |
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aditsu |
(unless there's an option I'm not aware of) |
| 17:53 |
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pdurbin |
oh, one would hope that javac enforces it... disallows lambdas and whatnot if you're targeting ancient java |
| 17:54 |
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aditsu |
I'm not talking about language features, I'm talking about new methods/classes |
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aditsu |
e.g. java.sql.statement.isClosed() was added in java 6, if you run it on a java 5 jre, you'll get NoSuchMethodError or something |
| 17:58 |
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aditsu |
same with Arrays.copyOfRange |
| 17:58 |
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aditsu |
um.. that should be a capital S in Statement |
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pdurbin |
oh. yeah, dunno. I'm happy to be using Java 8 in production |
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