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IRC log for #friendlyjava, 2015-12-03

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12:16 pdurbin_m Daniel Stenberg on Twitter: "a reminder to us why SF should remain blacklisted https://t.co/RnyKSMEEfi": https://mobile.twitter.com/bagder/status/672375262349275136
12:37 pdurbin aditsu: SF being sourceforge :)
12:37 pdurbin hanno on Twitter: "now filezilla is distributing malware and the developers still defend this https://t.co/kWPCo455S5" - https://twitter.com/hanno/status/672373991038976001
12:38 aditsu pdurbin: LOL that has nothing to do with SF
12:39 aditsu well, almost nothing
12:48 pdurbin really?
13:06 aditsu the filezilla guys chose to bundle other software, it's not like SF forced them to
13:07 pdurbin did SF suggest that they could?
13:08 aditsu I suppose it did
13:08 pdurbin terrible
13:08 pdurbin gimp is affected too: http://www.howtogeek.com/218764/warning-don%E2%80%99t-download-software-from-sourceforge-if-you-can-help-it/
13:09 pdurbin aditsu: save cjam while you can!
13:09 aditsu anyway, this stuff happened MANY months ago, they've cleaned up a lot after the scandal
13:10 aditsu haha, CJam doesn't have an installer
13:12 pdurbin oh
13:12 pdurbin so are only Windows programs affected?
13:13 aditsu I think so, and I would be very surprised if they still are
13:16 pdurbin ah, hmm. the post from the filezilla developer was from April: https://forum.filezilla-project.org/viewtopic.php?t=36762#p134590
13:17 pdurbin aditsu: so you're saying this kind of thing doesn't happen on SF anymore
13:19 aditsu not as far as I know, but I haven't really checked
13:35 aditsu at the very least, they're not offering "mirror" downloads anymore for non-SF projects
14:22 pdurbin well, I hope GitHub never turn evil
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15:29 pdurbin helpful: http://stackoverflow.com/a/29352148/19464
15:29 pdurbin cat pom.xml | xmlstarlet sel -N p='http://maven.apache.org/POM/4.0.0' -t -v '/p:project/p:version'
15:29 pdurbin getting the version of a maven project from pom.xml
15:30 pdurbin this also works: cat pom.xml | xpath '//project/version/text()'
15:30 pdurbin when xpath comes from perl-XML-XPath-1.13-10.el6.noarch (an RPM on CentOS)
15:53 aditsu oh, I didn't know there was an xpath command :) seems to be in dev-perl/XML-XPath in Gentoo
15:58 pdurbin yeah. I use in on Mac and Linux. it's handy
15:58 pdurbin much more forgiving than xmlstarlet
15:59 pdurbin for JSON I use `jq`
16:01 pdurbin which is fantastic
17:57 aditsu pdurbin: I've been talking to a SF guy, the installer bundling program (called "DevShare") is still available, <1% of projects are choosing to use it, and it's not supposed to include any malware (but it has some adware), and all add-ons can be declined in the installation wizard
18:21 pdurbin down with adware
18:21 aditsu yeah... users hate it, but apparently it brings SF a lot of money
18:21 pdurbin huh
18:21 sfisque money, blech
18:22 aditsu so they don't really want to axe it
18:22 pdurbin SF has an interesting business model
18:23 sfisque is SF even relevant anymore?  i mean just about everyone uses github now (though i do dislike git, but what can you do)
18:25 aditsu well, you can use SF :D
18:25 aditsu or if you don't need all the features, bitbucket
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18:46 aditsu I could hardly care less about what "just about everyone uses"
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