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08:14 pulsar pdurbin: sqlite is one thing, but based on my current gf 3.x experience, why would anyone willingly choose to use apocalypselink?
08:15 pulsar and i do not mean that in a sarcastic / rhetoric way.
08:31 sfisque pulsar it is generally easier and desirable to use the "off the shelf" jpa impl in a container than to bundle one with the app.
08:31 pulsar yes, in the case of glassfish - true.
08:31 pulsar but that article references tomcat7 + eclipselink
08:31 sfisque that pretty much translates to,  hibernate on jboss, eclipselink on gf, openjpa on websphere, etc.
08:32 sfisque well, tomcat has nothing so at that point, it's preference of the blogger
08:32 sfisque but then, what's the point of jpa on tomcat.  you might as well use a real container then, imo
08:32 pulsar hence my question. if you have the choice between hibernate and eclipselink
08:33 sfisque feature set is the only reason i can think of.  hiberante has stuff that eclipselink has not, and vice versa
08:33 sfisque but if you're leveraging vanilla jpa on top, the impl is meaningless in the long run
08:33 pulsar in the last project we have run into 2-3 bugs with eclipselink and could not fix that by simply updating the libraries since it was a monolithic gf package
08:33 pulsar and the kind of the bugs made me wonder why eclipselink is that popular
08:34 sfisque since it was adopted by GF it's pretty much the "reference impl" now.  but honestly, hibernate is probably the best by maturity level and support
08:34 sfisque anywho, time for me to hit the hay.  be well and bbl
08:35 pulsar yeah, matches my experience
08:35 pulsar you too, gnite!
11:45 pdurbin pulsar: because eclipselink is the reference implementation, I guess
12:17 pdurbin anyway, I pushed to a new sqlite branch here. first time I've though about this repo in years: https://github.com/pdurbin/java-jpa-tutorial/branches
12:17 pdurbin my idea was to have a playground to learn JPA without a lot of dependencies
12:18 pdurbin (such as glassfish and postgres)
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