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03:32 indistylo I am trying to make my first RESTful API project using  http://stackoverflow.com/questions/19483883/how-to-use-dropwizard-in-netbeans-project , I am getting this error http://pastebin.com/wsGnMT4M kindly tell me how to resolve it
04:23 indistylo There is strange behavior with my ubuntu system,  I have just changed openJDK to Java 8, echo $JAVA_HOME is still showing openJDK, Full problem details, see this URL > http://paste.ubuntu.com/12077122/
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05:13 indistylo There is strange behavior with my ubuntu system,  I have just changed openJDK to Java 8, echo $JAVA_HOME is still showing openJDK, Full problem details, see this URL > http://paste.ubuntu.com/12077122/
05:13 indistylo problem fixed
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09:09 indistylo ?
10:41 pdurbin indistylo: right, you want to leave the last part out of JAVA_HOME (bin)
10:46 indistylo pdurbin: Thanks I tinkered with that, issue stands resolved now. Thanks for extending help
11:05 pdurbin oh sure
11:06 pdurbin aditsu and pulsar: I'm playing with https://ozark.java.net and it seems nice.
11:07 * pulsar looks
11:08 pulsar "The MVC API is layered on top of JAX-RS"
11:08 * pulsar has a funky taste in his mouth
11:08 * pulsar looks further
11:08 pulsar hmm.. thats pretty much barebone.
11:09 pdurbin pulsar: check out the readme at https://github.com/spericas/ozark/tree/master/test
11:09 pulsar to be honest, i dont think jsp technology will see much development in the future
11:10 pulsar last application we developed is a 100% angular / SPA based one.
11:10 pulsar so no server side generated html at all.
11:10 pulsar ... finally
11:11 pulsar sure, you will have a full bag of different problems when going 100% state/sessionless on the serverside - but in the end it was totally worth it
11:13 pulsar that said, it sits ontop of a pile of enterprise tech (glassfish3, jax-rs, hal, buggy... err eclipselink, querydsl and so on)
11:14 pdurbin pulsar: you don't have to use jsp with MVC1.0. You can use mustache, velocity, thymeleaf, etc.
11:15 pulsar yes, but why not go 100% RESTful right of the bat then?
11:16 pdurbin for all the normal reasons
11:16 pulsar i dunno.. have been doing both extremes in the past
11:18 pulsar whenever we touched jsf we spent more time fighting the odd lifecycles and beating the crap out of *faces to customize its look to customers liking and make it croissbrowser safe
11:18 pdurbin pulsar: right but those problems (mostly?) go away if you switch from JSF to MVC1.0.
11:18 pdurbin I think.
11:19 pulsar on the other hand, going 100% restful / SPA based resulted in quite an JS-Accident with plenty of dependencies
11:19 pulsar the backend was not an issue really.
11:20 pulsar well... to be sure, i would really need to try that in a bigger project.
11:20 pulsar (as in *not* a todo app)
11:21 pdurbin well, sure but for now I'm hoping to add an MVC1.0 example to https://github.com/pdurbin/addressbookmvc /cc aditsu
11:21 pulsar somehow i dont think that having a server-based mvc framework will play very well together with a secondary one running in the browser
11:21 pulsar nice, keep me updated
11:22 pulsar oh, wait.
11:22 pulsar *star*
11:22 pulsar just did that ;)
11:23 pulsar i still have that vertx.io itch i would like to scratch too.
11:24 * pdurbin looks at http://vertx.io again
11:24 pdurbin oh, reactive. ok
11:24 pulsar i have written a crawler once, for a bigdata project. that would have come really handy back then
11:25 pulsar but now i have tweaked the crap out of that crawler code, running 400 crawler threads per machine in a cluster.
11:25 pulsar crawling the whole internet takes me about a month on a 20 node cluster.
11:25 pdurbin cool
11:25 pulsar yeah, that was fun. dumping all the data into hbase afterwards
11:26 pulsar very lowlevel, you feel like in the 70s again
11:26 pulsar ... but clustered.
11:28 pdurbin :)
12:09 aditsu pdurbin: "MVC for Java EE 8" -> 2 things that make me want to run away :p
12:10 pdurbin heh
12:11 pdurbin aditsu: I should take a closer look at your https://github.com/pdurbin/addressbookmvc/tree/master/examples/wicket
12:12 pdurbin this seems pretty reasonable: https://github.com/pdurbin/addressbookmvc/blob/master/examples/wicket/src/net/aditsu/phonebook/pages/EditPage.html
12:13 pdurbin so does https://github.com/pdurbin/addressbookmvc/blob/master/examples/wicket/src/net/aditsu/phonebook/pages/EditPage.java
12:15 aditsu EditPage.java is probably the least resonable of the source files :p
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12:43 pdurbin yeah
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20:36 pdurbin aditsu: uh oh. "lol at wicket": https://javabot.evanchooly.com/logs/%23%23jsf/2015-08-14
20:49 aditsu so.. lol because somebody who used it didn't stick with it but switched to a new fad... ok
20:49 pdurbin reminds me of this: Hipster Hacker on Twitter: "Looking back, I can see how much I've grown in the past year now that I've found react. https://t.co/9AxefXrkpd" - https://twitter.com/hipsterhacker/status/628986199814881280
20:50 pdurbin referencing "Just finished rewriting all my ember apps on backbone, and now I get to rewrite them all on angular. Feels good to make progress!"
20:53 aditsu such progress, wow
20:54 pdurbin :)
23:21 pulsar much spa
23:22 pulsar very non blocking

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