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20:12 pdurbin https://github.com/Hotware/Hibernate-Search-JPA (uses lucene)
20:38 pulsar i am a bit sick of abstraction layers upon abstraction layers. but that might be related to the madness in my current gig.
20:41 pulsar first rule of enterprise development: abstract the shit out of your work so noone can trace bad code to you. second rule - do not trust any other dev, always abstract and encapsulate their shit. third rule: never EVER talk to the database directly. Use *at least* one abstraction layer. also orm is mandatory. forth rule: use generics to death, even where interfaces might be more appropriate. make your api final and do not *ever* use <? extends T>
20:41 pulsar .
20:41 pulsar ... i could go on....
20:53 Richard_2340985 I like these rules
21:15 pdurbin pulsar: keep going, you're on a roll :)
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22:15 pdurbin "i'm hoping pulsar is being facitious :)" https://javabot.evanchooly.com/logs/%23glassfish/2015-07-26
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23:45 aditsu pulsar: looks like I like to break all the rules :)
23:45 pulsar you win the internet today then ;)
23:46 pulsar i loose and have to deal with this crap in .... 8 hours again ;)
23:46 aditsu also, hi from Japan
23:46 pulsar heh, you live there?
23:46 aditsu no, on holiday
23:46 pulsar aye
23:47 pulsar i better pack some club mate and do some dockerfile scripting or some angular tomorrow. just to somewhat stay sane
23:47 aditsu or I should say.. vacation
23:47 pulsar a big japan tour? or just one place?
23:48 aditsu basically around one place, Matsuyama
23:49 aditsu um.. isn't docker also a kind of abstraction?
23:49 pulsar but its abstraction for hipsters
23:49 pulsar asking for a whole new different kind of pain
23:49 aditsu hehe
23:49 pulsar tbh, i like it. for development.
23:49 pulsar disaster for production
23:50 pulsar official os repositories have ancient verisons (buggy as hell)
23:51 pulsar so you need to stick to bleeding edge releases directly from docker and/or use backports and other stunts to get a system somewhat stable
23:51 pulsar once you do, it kinda rocks.
23:51 aditsu my distro has 1.6.1 (and it's marked as unstable)
23:51 pulsar arch?
23:52 aditsu gentoo
23:52 pulsar 14.04 lts had 1.0.someting
23:52 pulsar i did not even bother looking at debian
23:52 pdurbin no java 8 in gentoo?
23:52 pulsar stopped using gentoo like... 6 years ago
23:53 aditsu pdurbin: that was the docker version, there is java 8
23:53 pdurbin oh
23:53 pulsar and it wound not be my first choice for a server os ;)
23:53 pulsar nor would arch.
23:53 aditsu only the oracle one for now though
23:53 pulsar tried infinality patched openjdk lately
23:54 pulsar and a 4k monitor for coding now
23:54 pulsar <3
23:55 aditsu gentoo is my first choice for everything... except the raspberry pi
23:55 pulsar pissed me off one too many times.
23:56 pulsar i think i quit when i had the mouse-mapping incident
23:56 pulsar basically on every reboot the mouse buttons got remapped by xorg randomly
23:56 aditsu huh, never heard of that
23:56 pulsar shrug... i have been using the same installation for years untill that point
23:57 pulsar god knows what crap i did pile up over time.
23:57 pulsar arch is like gentoo.... but stable ;)
23:57 pulsar untill now that is.

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