IRC log for #friendlyjava, 2014-08-04

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Time	S	Nick	Message
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02:29		firebird1	still i havent started using java 8 features
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08:34		cem__	hey philbot
08:34		cem__	hey pdurbin
08:35		cem__	why sessionscope key must be string only
08:35		cem__	disabled="#{empty sessionScope['ACTION_MAP'][sessionScope.LOOKUP_ACTION_MAP['24']]['Edit']}"
08:35		cem__	works
08:35		cem__	disabled="#{empty sessionScope['ACTION_MAP'][sessionScope.LOOKUP_ACTION_MAP[24]]['Edit']}"
08:35		cem__	doesnt work
08:36		cem__	got it
08:37		cem__	still didnt get it :(
08:38		cem__	all it does is session access a attribute and it has map of map Object
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13:18		pdurbin	what's better for a security framework? role-based or permission-based?
13:18		pdurbin	I'm looking at http://javaeesquad.blogspot.be/2014/03/octopus-framework.html
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18:22		aditsu	pdurbin: I don't really get it.. how is role-based different from permission-based and why would it require recompilation?
20:13		pdurbin	aditsu: I guess in what he's calling "role-based" there are explicit checks in the code for user.isManager or whatever
20:18		aditsu	oh ok.. that works in simple cases, but in a more complex system you'd probably want permissions for actions and assign permissions to roles using a database
20:32		pdurbin	yeah, that's what we're doing... assigning permissions to roles... and assigning roles to users or groups
20:35		pdurbin	we assign a role to an Assignee... because we can't think of a better word for something that can be a user or a group
20:36		pdurbin	well, I guess we're calling it a RoleAssignee (to be even more clear about what it is)
20:36		pdurbin	but it means a user or a group

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